#163 Hudson Rose
Hudson Rose and Rae Leigh talk about her country life upbringing, ‘fake it till you make it’ she says as she was walking down Peel St at the Tamworth Country Music Festival holding her mini Maton guitar and dressed for the part of a country singer-songwriter. Hudson is a true beauty inside and out and quickly became the rose of country music in Australia with her pop-driven country music. She shares her passions, advice from her mum, and journey working with producers in Melbourne.
Featured in this episode is her single Drivin To You
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Transcript
Rae Leigh: Welcome to a Songwriter Trysts with Hudson Rose. Thank you for joining me.
Hudson Rose: Thank you so much for having me. It's great to be here.
Rae Leigh: I'm excited. And I'm excited for people who maybe haven't heard you before to listen to some of your music as well. Cause it's very cool.
Hudson Rose: Thank you. Thank you.
Rae Leigh: Let's start by you sharing a little bit about yourself, who you are and where you come from.
Hudson Rose: Yeah, definitely. Well, I am 19 years old. I'm from the mid north coast of new south Wales, a small town called Wingham. Just inland from Tyree. If you know where Tyree is. And I guess I've always loved, music, but country music, especially. I think I love the stories that it tells and just the pictures that it can paint just by listening to the lyrics. I think it's so beautiful. I got my first guitar It was a mini Matan when. Yes. I know
Rae Leigh: guitar to have.
Hudson Rose: I know, but it's,
So I got that in Christmas, 2016, and I hadn't been to the Tamworth country music festival yet. So I learnt three songs on this guitar and headed to the downward country music festival in 2017 and just carried it around and its case, you know, to make up and down peels straight to make.
People think that I was, I was definitely legit.
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Hudson Rose: And it was, you know, and people did, they just, you know, I wore my hat and I had my guitar and it was, I looked, I looked the part I can definitely say. And so I, I love to like
Rae Leigh: What they say.
Hudson Rose: a hundred percent. So, but I've, Bouska stopped
me. And he had the same guitar as me. That was the connection. And he, he goes, oh, you've got a place, play us a song.
And I said, oh, and at this point he didn't know, I didn't know how to play guitar. I did three songs, but terribly and. Anyway, I did after a little bit of convincing, I got up and saying these three songs and he was so encouraging and so lovely and,
Rae Leigh: Was that on peel
street? Was it, who was that?
Hudson Rose: TJ and Danny were their names.
And.
Rae Leigh: Okay.
Hudson Rose: Only Danny came back the following year. TJ, his wife got sick, so he had to miss the festival. Yeah, but it, was I'm so glad that? I got there in 2017 to see his last festival and meet him. I think it was, a true honor. Like he was just such an amazing person and really set the scene for me in, four time with country music festival.
Before. Yeah, definitely. And the following year, I, shared a busking spot up near Telstra and peel street with two friends of mine. And then following that 2019, I had my own spot in front of sombreros and my mom and I were down there every month. Until like mid afternoon. And, I was lucky enough to be selected as a top 10 busker in the final, which was pretty exciting.
And so that's definitely, yeah. It's and I guess Tamworth is really cool to see the, the progression, you know, sometimes you're so close to yourself that you, you, you, throughout the year, you kind of, oh yeah, I haven't really done much, but, you get to Tamworth and it's, I've done quite a bit in a year, so that's. I think that's a really, Yeah, definitely.
Rae Leigh: 2019 was my first year
on poster.
Hudson Rose: Really a big year for everyone.
Rae Leigh: it was, I actually didn't even own, I did like two spots with, smokey Pete, you know, he does like an, a walkup station. So
Hudson Rose: Yeah.
Rae Leigh: He booked me in for a couple of, but I was literally only there for 48 hours. And then.
Hudson Rose: Yeah. Wow.
Rae Leigh: Drove down, drove back, but it was such a, that was a quiet year though, that one.
But that was my first experience of time with country music festival. And I'm pretty sure I walked the whole street. So I'm like, I must have seen you there. Cause I was like, oh, is this looking
at Hudson rose? I'm like, I swear. I know her from somewhere.
Hudson Rose: well, I was down at the very beginning of peel straight where, you know, Zen burrows is now, but, yeah, it's, it's, I love it. I think it's such a beautiful atmosphere. It's obviously it's very, very hot, but, that just makes it doesn't it, it's all part of it.
Rae Leigh: It's a part of the experience and, it is such a massive party and a beautiful, I love country music fans and the events that are put on by people for country music just seem to be so wholesome and friendly and accepting and just, yeah, really nice. Yeah. Okay. So w let's go back to, how did you end up with a guitar in 2016 for Christmas?
Like where did that start? Why who bought it
for you? Why did they give it to you?
Hudson Rose: Well, my, I have a sister that's two years older than me. And, and when we were 10 years old, or I can't remember if it was eight or 10, but we were allowed to start learning an instrument and, cause mom thought we were, you know, we were old enough then, you know, we'd be a little bit more committed.
Anyway. And so, cause she's two years older than me. She got to start two years earlier, which instance anyway. And so she picked up the guitar and, and decided that that would be her instrument to learn. Anyway, and then two years later I'm super excited about to start lessons and, and mum goes off, you know, what, what have you? You try something else, you know, your, your sister's learning guitar.
Maybe if you did something else. And I was like, okay. Okay. And so I started learning keyboard and, and my sister and I used to do some little markets and little mini festivals around, our hometown and around where we live and she'd do guitar. I paid play keyboard and we both sing.
Rae Leigh: Yep.
Hudson Rose: And then she moved into, breaking and training horses.
And so she does, we're both country just in different ways. That's what mom always says. But, so once she put down the guitar, I was like, right, well, this is, this is my chance. Exactly. And we had a, it was Jeff, it was my sister's guitar and, Jessica's guitar. And we had a. Like, I think it was an Ashton guitar and light really light colored and, just a, like a, a muck around guitar.
And that was the one she was using. And, and I think mom and dad saw that I was, a little bit more serious and I wanted to pursue this. And I was, you?
know, sitting down, practicing all the time and, and I'd spoken to mom in 2016 and, I had been to a couple of local gigs and mentioned that that was something that I really wanted to work towards doing.
And, and so we made that a goal for the following year for 2017. And so then Christmas, 2016 was the year. Yeah. exactly. And the store where the Qatar was bought music's corner in Newcastle, is about two hours from where I live, but we're good friends with them There Now it's a bit dangerous when I walk in. I now have full maintenance.
Rae Leigh: Oh, wow.
Hudson Rose: I know I'm a bit of a fan.
Rae Leigh: thanks mom and dad, then that's beautiful. And they are a good guitar. So that's, that is really good. Okay. So can you tell me, like when you wrote your first song and what it was that you
think kind of drew you to being a songwriter and.
Hudson Rose: Yeah, definitely. I guess I been mucking around with ideas and on the guitar. I didn't really know a wide variety of chord, so I just kind of like put my things in different spots on the, on the neck. Yeah. And kind of play around a little bit, and make up sounds. And, I'd write poems. I started, I really loved English in school and so I started writing some poems and then I'd try to put them to music.
But the first song that I, I wrote, we just moved from a property. We had, 385 acres out on a property and we just moved into town. And my mum, my sister and I, and it was very, very different and different things to get used to and things that you just would just so bizarre, like you wouldn't like, even streetlights were very odd. you know, we didn't have street lights on the farm and we didn't have any furniture in this place, where we're living now. And I sat down in the lounge room. Oh, what is now Landry and, but, and with the mini maiden and wrote a song called gone, and it was kind of about, me moving on. I think I, I was getting a little bit older.
I can't remember exactly how old I was. I was, it was probably two. Oh, I was obviously 2017 after I got the guitar. and.
so I would have been what's that 15 or 16, I'm thinking,
Rae Leigh: pretty old.
Hudson Rose: Yeah.
I know. Thank you.
And, Yeah.
so 15, 15 or 16, and it was this, this song was the quickest song that I've ever written. And I like, I think that just set the bar A little bit higher at the beginning
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Hudson Rose: of that.
I can never beat that record now, but it just came out in one go. And it was kind of about, I dunno, I was 15 or 16 and telling the world that I wasn't putting up with all the rubbish anymore, you know? And, and so this, I love the song still to this day, I think. But it's, it's a very personal song and I don't know if it's for me too personal at this point to put out.
But maybe one day on a, you know, an album where it's like, you know, how Taylor swift has done in the volts or something, you know, it's like, Something Hudson's first song. Yeah.
Something like that. But, and then ever since then, I've just loved writing. I was part of, a program called the talent development project in Sydney and it's run by the new south Wales arts unit.
And. They set your challenges. It's like a program where you go each month and they set you challenges to, to write a song with the word divine or, Apollo or something. And you have however long, a month or a couple of weeks to get this song, sorted and present it. And so I found that really, really helpful in working to deadlines.
And I wasn't just on my own timeframe.
Rae Leigh: Yep. Yep. No, that sounds really good. And a good way to kind of challenge you, but also help you grow and get instant feedback and, you know, work towards something. Cause it can be hard as a, as a writer to kind of like motivate yourself and set
time aside and like wait for inspiration.
Hudson Rose: and it like especially I
found, I know I'm jumping ahead a little bit, but, over the last two years, let's say, you know, through COVID,
I was getting a lot of inspiration through people that I was talking to or things that I was seeing and when you're stuck at home, that that inspiration goes. And so it is, it's really hard to like, keep yourself accountable and meet these like.
Deadlines for yourself and meet them and, and, and still continue to push yourself, I think is really important.
Rae Leigh: And I have talked to a few people who are quite younger, or like teenagers when they started. And I feel like a lot of them have said that they've really love just listening to other people and writing other people's stories. What, what kind of inspired you to start
doing that?
Hudson Rose: I don't know. I think. I've always loved listening to lecture, NY Twain and Taylor swift early stuff was, big inspirations for me, or Kelsea Ballerini is early stuff as well. And. And like I said, in the beginning, like country music is just renowned for the stories that?
it, it shares. And so I've always loved that.
I'm still mastered, like people always ask me in an interview, always this, this song based on personal experience. And I think what I do is I take like to something tiny, whether it's in my life or something that I've heard and, and blow it way out of proportion and exaggerate the hell out of it.
Just so it's something that, still connected to me, but that, you know, two steps removed sort of thing. So it's, it's still objective, but relatable to people that, that are listening, but
Rae Leigh: Yeah. Creative lessons.
Hudson Rose: definitely, definitely. And, but I really like pudding, Lear, music to poems because it's something that someone else has written potentially before.
And. Yeah. or co-writing, you know, I think is really amazing when, a massive pot of co-writing is, is getting to know the person and sharing a little bit of each other's stories, beforehand, so that you can feel comfortable in you, you feel like you're actually writing, for a purpose. So,
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
that is kind of, I guess, where this podcast idea came from was that, you know, getting to know someone before a carotid is a really intimate experience. What about like, is there a theme that you've noticed sort of pop up for you and your song, right. That you always think about or something that you're always considerate of that is kind
of your, like the Hudson rose message or
Hudson Rose: Yeah, I haven't. Yeah, I haven't actually thought about that. Too much. I think I always want to put out, put out music that I'm super proud of And, like for example, the the inspiration for the latest track drive to you was actually a comment that I heard, from a video just online and a girl was saying, I've got to get too drunk to drive tonight. you know, otherwise I'm going to go and see this guy and.
Rae Leigh: That's kind of cool.
Hudson Rose: I know that's what I was thinking. And I was like, wow, That's a, like, it's an interesting concept, but, I'm 19 and I don't want to release a, a drinking song. I was trying to, you know, think about what are the other things that people do to, to stop themselves from doing something.
And so. I think understanding, you know, my brand for example, is like, I'm not going to ride a drinking song or, I still want to be that, that relatable down to earth, you know, go next door sort of vibe. And. And so like this, this song was, you know, something that can be relatable, but also something that people can just tap their foot along to and have a good time and, you know, driving to work or home from work.
And they're just listening to this one, singing it out in the car. And I think that's always been, like a goal for, for the music released with, my Hudson rose and.
Rae Leigh: beautiful.
Hudson Rose: Yeah.
definitely. I would love to write like a, you know, like Carrie Underwood's champion or something like a, a real I know,
Rae Leigh: Empowering one, like one that motivates you and gets you up in the morning.
Hudson Rose: I'm working on it and working on
Rae Leigh: me too. Me too. I love those songs. The ones that kind of just, I don't know, pump you up
Hudson Rose: Yeah. a hundred percent. Yeah.
Rae Leigh: So speaking of collaboration, what, what is your co-writing experience been like? And what's your sort of so
far how you prepare for a co-write.
Hudson Rose: Well, I only really started co-writing properly. I did a couple like a with people locally, but properly was through COVID, at the beginning of last year. And I just started sending out lots and lots of messages to people that, I really was enjoying their music and, Whether that be, you know, country musicians or, pop musicians.
It was really, whoever was open to the idea of, of co-writing at the time. And, so I sent out these messages and I made a golf myself that every co-write.
that I went into, I would have an idea. And whether we use that idea or not, didn't really matter, but at least I was prepared. And so I did, I can successfully say that I did that.
Rae Leigh: Yep.
Hudson Rose: and and I discovered Google docs. I don't know how I'd, must've been living in a hole, but don't know how, I didn't know that, but,
Rae Leigh: that's really good for co-writing I find especially online obviously,
Hudson Rose: And you can see the other person typing. It's just incredible.
Rae Leigh: yeah, no, I mean, I, I'm definitely still love being in post. Like that is always preference. Even with these podcasts, I dunno, like actually just in general, I love being with people in
Hudson Rose: Yeah.
Rae Leigh: I'm not a texter or foreign conversation person.
I really do love just the energy of being in a room with someone. But I also went slightly mad, not having someone to talk to and, and sort of being creative without the people. So finding a way to do it online, was really helpful for me during COVID as well.
Hudson Rose: definitely. And I think, fight, like if that's a positive that can come out of COVID is, , we've definitely found new and different ways to connect with people and connect with people. All the way on the other side of the world, you know, it's, it's incredible.
Rae Leigh: W w which was your favorite collaboration so
far?
Hudson Rose: I really enjoyed riding with that piece and, and Brooke Chevelle,
Rae Leigh: Oh yeah.
Hudson Rose: they were really cool. Like it was just, we did a late night
one and, and we're all in our pajamas and, and just having, having a bit of fun, having a laugh, it wasn't too serious, which is really, it's really fun, you know, just to do that. and I find, you know, I used to be nervous about, especially with the Google doc there, people are like, oh, just, just type your ideas. And I'm sitting there going, but what if my ideas are terrible? And so I've definitely learned to like Nat and Brooke are really cool with that. Like every idea they're like, oh cool.
Like we might not use it, but if it sparks something else, then, then it's done its job. But, and I think co-writing, you can really, really love. So much from the people that you're co-writing with, because they've just got different, different experiences, but also different skills. Like they might go to the, you might go to the same four chords, whereas they go to four different chords and it just sounds incredible to you.
It's and so, Yeah.
I really enjoy that process.
Rae Leigh: Absolutely. And they're an incredible team. Both just amazing writers and performers in their own. Right. So, yeah. No, I've had the
pleasure of having both of them on the chat, on the show and, in person, which
Hudson Rose: Yes. Oh, not
Rae Leigh: cause they only live around the corner, but, Yeah, it's so good to be able to connect with other people.
And I agree learning from like their personal flavor of music intertwined with yours, like that's, I feel like, I feel like that's the beauty of corroding for
Hudson Rose: Yes, definitely.
Rae Leigh: So, now that you've been doing it for a little while, and obviously not much has happened since 2019, I'm guessing you're going back to 2020. Tell me with country music
Hudson Rose: Yes. Yes.
Rae Leigh: So far, what would you say the best advice is that you've received within this industry?
Hudson Rose: oh, Those little cliche things. You know, if I, I, get a chance to meet someone that I love their music or I'm, I look up to, I always ask them, you know, what are these, what are the little things that you would say the little potholes or, things to look out for, or just kind of, you know, you might not expect.
But, I think the best advice is I, I always love just chatting to my mom.
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Hudson Rose: You know, we bounce ideas off each other and sometimes they get really down and, you know, sometimes you think, oh, you know, why, why isn't a song doing as, as well as the last one I didn't didn't do this or this didn't happen.
Or, and sometimes it's really easy to just get caught up on those things. And mum always just says, what if you can't change it, you can't do anything about it. So it's, it's. You know, it's out of your control and just accepting that those things are sometimes and always putting your best foot forward, I think is, is super important and being true to you and your brand.
And, mum's really helped me with that with figuring out who exactly I wanted Hudson rose to be. And, the person that I wanted to, to come across to other people as, and it is it's. Relatable, approachable, down to earth storyteller, essentially.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. I love that. And it's all about, for me, it's all about the story.
Hudson Rose: Yeah,
Rae Leigh: That's beautiful. What about, and this, I mean, it's, it's not like it's been a massive, you know, sometimes I'm talking to a six year old and I say, tell me what, you'd tell yourself. If you
went and spoke to yourself as a teenager, I know it's only been a few years,
Hudson Rose: yeah, yeah.
Rae Leigh: but if now, even you could go back and talk to yourself, say 2016, 2017, you've just started out and give yourself a little bit of advice as to what you might do different or
like, is there anything you would say to yourself.
Hudson Rose: Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, I don't, I think,
I don't know that I do things differently. I think I would, B oh, what? That's an interesting question. I haven't haven't thought about this one before, but I would, I guess I would choose carefully the people that are around me and the people that, I share my story with.
And, just cause you never know. And I think
even though I've only released three songs, it's I didn't expect the different amounts of different types of people that you've made, I guess. And so, I guess I tell myself just to be prepared for that and yeah. At the same time. that's not where it stops.
It just, you know, you keep going and you release another amazing song, like driving to you and,
and you work with more amazing people and you just have to keep pushing yourself. And, and sometimes it gets really, really frustrating and you get, get annoyed and you have a little bit of a cry and then you get off and you just keep going and you do it again.
And. Like I can honestly say that doing a live gig, whether it's a cover gig or an original show is my favorite part of the week. And that hasn't changed for ever since I started doing gigs in 2017. So I'd remind myself with that.
Rae Leigh: You just love playing and
Hudson Rose: yeah,
And, and, you know, even though you get you play, oh, I play all sorts of venues and you know, people might have a few drinks and they just loosen up a bit, you know, then they start dancing or they start singing and you can just have a really good time, you know, it's like you were saying that people interaction, oh my goodness, I miss it.
Rae Leigh: me too. And I know I'm not new south Wales. I'm in Queensland. And so I. So much compassion for people who have been in locked down for long periods of time. I don't know if I would have
survived. If I'm honest, I don't know how I would
have.
Hudson Rose: And it's like, people were saying that, you know, oh, you know, you're going to have.
To be a musician that can perform online. And I just, I was thinking, you know, if that's all it is, I don't know that I could do that. And it's not even about the, the, the recognition or the,
the, what is it?
The, I'm not sure the word, but let's just stick with The recognition that you're getting. It's more about that.
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Hudson Rose: But the interaction with people and
that you like, there's nothing like someone singing your song back to you in a live audience. nothing can beat that feeling.
Rae Leigh: Even if it's like just a small group. Yeah. I agree. Like I definitely did a lot of online live stuff and tried to kind of interact with all the communities that were doing music to, you know, keep get each other through. But yeah, I agree. Like as much as you can interact with the comments, I found it really.
Awkward, like just singing to myself. I mean, I do that anyway, but the
idea that someone is watching or anyone is watching.
Hudson Rose: And you can't see them.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. And yeah, and I think that's, it kind of just more highlighted the
sadness that we couldn't be together.
But we can now, how is it getting better down there? Is it opening up now?
Hudson Rose: it's opening. Yeah.
Definitely things are opening up. And I think everyone's really looking forward to Christmas. I have a couple of, Christmasy sort of gigs in December, just locally, but, uh, things that I'm really looking forward to and, and getting back, back out and, and playing some songs.
I cannot wait at some, but I think I was.
Through this time where I couldn't play or play live. When shows went back, I wanted to, you know, give people a reason to come to see live music, like the shows to be just really tight and, and polished. And, you know, they might see a musician and they go, oh, we really need to support live music.
Like that was amazing. And so just so that it is, it is supported and, and people go, geez, I miss that. And let's never make that go away again.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. And I hope that someone told me the other day, I don't know if you've heard about the roaring twenties, how like in the twenties, after the Spanish flu in the 1920s, there was this jazz thing. And like people just went nuts for music and dancing and clubbing. And like that was called the roaring twenties and it was post.
Hudson Rose: Okay.
Rae Leigh: I've heard a rumor, which I like fingers crossed hope is true. That they're expecting
the same thing to happen. We're going to have like a roaring
twenties
Hudson Rose: That's awesome.
Rae Leigh: out century.
Hudson Rose: That's given me goosebumps.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. Right.
Hudson Rose: I didn't even know about that.
I'll have to have to look into it a little bit and see what it was like. Oh, that's something to look forward to. I will, I
Rae Leigh: think so. I'm like, yo, I want to live through, I want my thirties to be the roaring twenties. Like I want to dance and play music all hours of the night and just stay out and party. That sounds like amazing after a few years of
depression. And,
Hudson Rose: Oh, wow. That's so cool. I would definitely something to look forward to
Rae Leigh: I hope so. Yeah. All right. This is one of my last official questions and then I'll, get to what you're doing next.
So. If you could collaborate with anyone in the world living or dead, who would it be and
why?
Hudson Rose: my goodness. I think I would. I've always been a really, really big keeper and fan. And so I would love to just learn from him, you know, even his guitar skills. One of my goals is to be able to solo on the guitar. So I definitely think he could teach me a thing or two. But then I would also like to, I'd like to collaborate or even just sit down and chat with, I think, collaborate with Keith urban.
Because I I've always, yeah, like the golden road. Oh, the story so far album just have been my childhood, and to do, to do that and collaborate with someone like that, I think would be incredible. But I'd love to sit down with Shania Twain just because she, I think she, like in her day it was, or her day, obviously it's still her day now, but goodness me.
Rae Leigh: She was one of my inspirations, like I think she was like a nineties
sort of boom artist.
Hudson Rose: Definitely. But she really,
I can't remember what album it was that she would Come out over the Camano that album. Yeah.
And it was, a little bit, not quite as snatched up so quickly by the quote unquote industry. But the fans really loved it. and so, you know, I'd love to just sit down with her and, cause I think she was, she was a boundary pusher and she really tested the limits of what was country at the time.
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Hudson Rose: And I think now at the moment, we can still do that, you know, and we can push, push the limits and test those boundaries. And, and so I'd like to understand what, why exactly she made those choices and, what were the outcomes for her, you, know, how she felt and how she dealt with that and, and move through that different.
Rae Leigh: Well, I'm just going to have to
have a chat with Schneider Twain on the podcast and ask her these questions just for you, just for
Hudson Rose: Let me know, let me know. Actually I'll listen. Don't even worry about it.
Rae Leigh: I'll let her know though. I'll be like, look,
Hudson rose really wants to know.
Hudson Rose: Yeah, definitely. I'd love
to know.
Rae Leigh: , no, I, I I'd like to know as well, because I do agree with you. I think that country music, as is Joan HRA is often so separated from every other John. I literally feel it in a phone today and it said, which Henri are you in? And there was a drop down box and it didn't even have country
as an option. And I'm like, that's a pretty big genre to be missing from a genre list. I had to put down pop instead instead. Th there wasn't, yeah, there wasn't really an option for, for anything else, but I do find that the boundaries of country. Like, I think they're been pushed in there's so many debates and, and sort of anger around it, but at the same time for me, I I'm a big believer that country is storytelling.
And if you're telling a story in a way you'll
song is country,
Hudson Rose: yes. Yeah, definitely. And I think,
Rae Leigh: country or, you know, has three calls and I don't know, I don't know
Hudson Rose: a hundred percent. Yeah. And I totally agree. I think,
As up and coming art, like an artist for me, I think. It's definitely something that I want to do, you know and I want to, stand out and be a little bit different and, figure out what, it is that might like what's my own sound.
Cause you know, you listen to a Shanaya Twain song and you can instantly tell that that's that Shanaya sound or a Keith song and that's Kate's sound. And so I really.
am working hard to find Hudson sound. And so, and that's when I went to M squared, Michael and Michael in Melbourne. And. Just for this latest track to help me kind of, I wanted something different to the previous two, but, to help me kind of develop that sand and progress it and, grow as an artist, I think was, definitely yeah, On the list for me.
Rae Leigh: you've definitely got to this. So this new track that you've released is, is got like a really fun, upbeat track that, you know, I could definitely ride triptych for sure.
What was the inspiration behind it?
Hudson Rose: Well, it was that, the video that I saw where the girl said, that I got to get too drunk to drive. And so I took that idea to, and squared. I co-wrote the song with Michael painter and Michael . And, and that's where we kind of were bouncing ideas, of what are other things that we do to stop ourselves from doing the things that we know we shouldn't be doing.
And.
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Hudson Rose: So, one of the guys suggested all bearing the keys in the sand and, and one of the other guys goes, yeah, but you wouldn't actually do that in real life. So that's great idea, but no, let's scrap it?
So I love them because they're so, like they're so honest, but at the same time they go yep.
Cool. Let's oh Yeah.
That's a cool idea. Oh, that doesn't really fit. Oh. But it could be like this. And so they still make you feel very.
What's the very valid and valued in the process. But at the same time, I really like kind of.
Filter out the rubbish to get to the gold.
Rae Leigh: Yup.
Hudson Rose: I think I've, I've definitely found, a sound that I'm loving at the moment and some of the inspirations, you know, weren't even country like ed Sheeran's, new stuff or, one Republic and, and so to kind of take that sound and make it a little bit more country was the golf of this tracking.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. and I was going to say it like there, there's definitely been some boundaries pushed. I'd say some people would be having comments around it, I can, I can feel that sort of pop and I love one Republican. I love, I'd really love that sound. Was that, M squared's sort of input. Does that sound kind of predominantly from them
or did you have like
reference tracks or how did that, how did the sound from.
Hudson Rose: Definitely. Well, they asked me,
we had one meeting, a zoom meeting and, just about, you know, what it was that I was looking for. And if, if it was something that they could help me with and they felt that we could really make something magic and. So they, they were like, okay, yeah, we'll let, yep.
Like that sounds like something we could, we'd love to be involved in. They said I'll get together a list of, songs that you're loving at the moment and like pinpoint what it is in a song that, you really like it. And, so like for example, bad habits, and I really liked how the instruments, came out of the chorus and it was just the beat.
Rae Leigh: Yep.
Hudson Rose: Which is something that we replicated in re not directly replicated, but I'm talking inspiration from, for driving to you. But the process happened really, really quickly. Monday, we wrote the song and had the, like a guitar vocal guide, track thing. Tuesday, they had a vibe track of some more instruments in the field of it.
Wednesday, we did the vocals and by Friday there was a first mix.
Rae Leigh: Wow.
Hudson Rose: Yeah, it was insanely fast and, and it was really fun because everyone was super excited throughout the process. It was yeah.
Rae Leigh: you, co-writer.
Hudson Rose: Yes.
Rae Leigh: Amazing. And
did you have to go down there or were you able to work remotely?
Hudson Rose: no, I did everything from my, my little home studio.
Rae Leigh: Amazing. Well done.
Hudson Rose: I think you it was so fancy though, because, painter, one of the guys, Michael painter, and so to to do, Distinguished them.
It's like their last names. Cause they're both called Michael. Painter and Doug and painter, took over my computer. He, showed me what, audio, audio recording software I needed. And I set up all the microphones and had it all sorted. And then he asked for permission to take over my computer and it was, it was all very, very fancy.
The mouse was moving by itself.
Rae Leigh: Oh,
nice. My husband
does that. He's an it node.
Hudson Rose: Yeah,
Rae Leigh: he knows what it.
Hudson Rose: I'm just there like, oh my goodness.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. It's like you're in the room and you're controlling my computer, but you're not
here. It's weird. It's like a ghost in the room.
Hudson Rose: hear you. And I can
see the mouse moving and I can see you, but you're just not here. Here.
Rae Leigh: That's so cool. I'm really impressed how people have been able to adapt during this time when we can't be in the studio together, but still be able to collaborate in a way that is delivering incredible music still. So well done for finding a way around it. I'm really impressed and I am loving the new track and I want to sort of, hopefully
I'll see you like. And hopefully I'll see you at the time worth country music festival, but do you have any plans for the future? Like what what's coming up next that people can look to. I'm going to put all your description to like your music and your socials and website in the, blowgun on the description of the podcast. But shows and
music, like what can we expect from you in the next sort of 12 months?
Hudson Rose: Well obviously heading to Tamworth, I have a few things lined up, which I'll announce, , a little bit later in December, but, wanted to keep it a little bit quieter this year to catch some shows. Haven't really had an opportunity to do that over the past couple of years. So I'm really excited for that.
But I'd love to put together. of a tour and I'm a new south Wales east coast tour, potentially. I'm not quite sure how far up or how far down yet, but, um, something, something like that, you know, I'd love to get out and share some of the stories behind the songs, with some people and then, then potentially move to more of an inland tour like Tamworth, scone, potentially, um, Corinne dye, those sorts of areas.
And. So nothing's set in stone yet. But definitely in the pipe works and, but local gigs are still still happening. So I play between Southwest rocks and Newcastle normally most weekends. So hopefully that'll be picking up or there's picking up more in,
in the new year. So definitely looking forward to that and some new, new music coming in in the new year as well.
So look out for that.
Rae Leigh: that's exciting. I know that it's early days, but if this is what you're doing now, it's only going to get better and. Yeah, I'm super excited for you. And I'm really excited that you're just doing it and you fake it till you make it and you keep learning as you go. And I think that's the best way to do it.
And I think you've got some, some real soul in what you're doing and the passion
is real. So keep going, I'll see you around. Is there anything
else you would like to say before we finish up the podcast is yours.
Hudson Rose: Oh, I don't know. I think that's it. I think, I'm extremely grateful for all the support that, um, all of the singles have received and, you know, that's it, I think you're constantly learning. And just because an artist is getting more, um, plays on radio or they they're booking festivals, like I don't think you've ever stopped learning.
And I think it's that I can apply it to anything in, not just music, but. It's definitely a journey. And I can honestly say that I learned something new from each single. And you think that you're on top
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Hudson Rose: then, you know, release month comes and you're like, why didn't I think of that? Or. And so it's, it's definitely, learning each time and maybe one day I'll, I'll get there.
But, I could only imagine I would love to release it an AP or an album in the future. I just haven't decided which comes first. I'm thinking in AP, but we're not sure yet. But I can only imagine, you know, if I get overwhelmed with a single, I could only imagine what a five or six track AP would do.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. I mean, it is just different. It's just another experience and you just go with it and, and then you learn from it. And, you know, I think, I think it was, Matt Cornell that said, You know, everyone expects their first AP to do well, but no one's ever does.
Hudson Rose: Exactly. And
Rae Leigh: he was like, you do it, knowing that it's a, it's a experience and it's a Rite of passage and you don't quit after the first one.
Hudson Rose: Yes, that's it. And it's a journey. And people say to me, oh, this latest summer. Oh, it should be doing so well. Like it's such an amazing song. and um, or, or maybe you should have saved this one. And I think, you know, it's, if, if the songs start being heard a little bit more, people are gonna look back at my previous work and I still want it to be amazing songs, songs that I'm really, really proud of.
And. You know, these, these first three songs I can honestly say, um, are, you know, and I don't think I'll, I'll look back and go, oh, geez. I wish I didn't release that. I think they they're all, relevant and to where I was at at that point. They represented my, my son writing style and my, my feel at that time.
And so I think it's a really cool, way to look back and go, oh, I remember that like their little. Little memories essentially, aren't they?
Rae Leigh: that's a Lanata says is you just documenting. Creative expression form what you're going through at that particular time in your life. And that's going to change because that's life we learn, we grow and we change. And so you're going to experience different things. Like I think it was. You know, Kathryn Britton, melody, Morocco, you know, with having children, the references in their songs are different because they're going through motherhood.
And I relate to that because I I'm a mother, you know? So like, I think, but then a teenager, you know, in 10 years time, you're not going to be a teenager anymore, but they might hear it and go, oh, she knows how I feel right now because they're in that moment right now. It's timeless. It's beautiful. And.
Yeah, things change, but everyone goes through every age and
every experience and we just learn from each other. That's beautiful.
Hudson Rose: percent. Yeah. And it's, it's great that, you know, we can help and support each other. through that. It's like, like you were saying with, , Melanie and Catherine, you know, it's no melody, sorry. And Catherine, oh, did I say Melanie and,
Rae Leigh: That's all right.
Hudson Rose: melody and Catherine and, you know, people can listen to those songs and go, oh, that's just what I needed to hear.
I'm like, isn't that just such a beautiful thing.
Rae Leigh: Yep. Absolutely. And that's it, there's something really therapeutic and healing about listening to a song and someone saying something that's exactly how you feel, but maybe you hadn't articulated it yet or hadn't been out of express it it's like, their expression helps me express what, I didn't know that I needed to express
Hudson Rose: yeah, definitely a hundred percent. A hundred percent.
Rae Leigh: And it's very beautiful.
Hudson Rose: It's yeah.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. All right. Well, that, that's it for me. Thank you so much for joining me. And, I look forward to sharing this podcast.
Hudson Rose: Awesome. Thank you so much.
