#152 Jasmin Bade
Jasmin Bade received an APRA scholarship to do a bachelor of music at the university of Tasmania and talks about what collage was like for her and the benefits that she got from going to university that isn’t always listed in the description of the course. It was the culture and community and life experience she got from living on campus.
Now living in Nashville and getting an internship at the blue bird she is living her dream, inspired by Casey chambers and Taylor swift she is chasing her dreams to be an incredible singer songwriter in her own right. Phil barton is a great supporter of her in Nashville who is also from Melbourne and now in Nashville as a songwriter.
Being mental health week we talk about the challenges around social acceptance of mental health issues. And especially how it has increased during Covid not just in the music industry but for everyone. We go into what a mental health first aid certificate is and why it's so great to have.
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Jasmin Bade
Rae Leigh: Welcome to a Songwriter Tryst with Jasmin Bade. How are you
Jasmin Bade: I'm doing great.
Rae Leigh: Let's start the podcast by you sharing a little bit about who you are and where you come from.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah, for sure. I was born in Melbourne Australia, obviously. Well, it could be Melbourne, Florida, actually. When you say that over here in America, people don't really know I live in Nashville, Tennessee. I was years old. I had contributions had Casey chambers for the first time became like weirdly obsessed because not many people in Melbourne are super into country and, I didn't care.
So I kept singing. It kept playing. I would play in school assembly. I went to a school right in the middle of like the city, Melbourne in the city. And people were like, what are you doing? And I dunno, it didn't really phase me too much. And, I went to Tamworth when I was seven.
Like, I guess I made my parents take me and I know I got even a necklace in graves, like this cheap little star shaped necklace, and it says timeless 2004. And I have. I know, it's so funny. And I remember I wanted to meet Becky calls so that she was doing a show and I was running on the footpath and I fell over and it was someone helped me get up and I look up and it's Becky called.
And, I normally just a few weeks ago, she, she played my song on her selenite country radio show. And it was like this big, like full circle moment for me. So, so I kept doing it, country music festivals, where I could find them. And, always the dream was to come to Nashville. So when I was 17, Hopped on over, for a month when I finished school, and had a lot of Cool.
things going on and happened to me then, and went back home, went to uni, studied music, and then moved on over, straight off, a couple of years ago.
And That's Where I'm at now. I studied a bachelor of music, majoring in, sing a song writing at the university of Tasmania. they have a conservatory with music. They're an ACRA. If I'm sure listeners probably know, but get the Australian forming rights association, they give a, Scott, some writing scholarship there.
A lot of people don't know that and I didn't know that until just before. And honestly, I don't think many other people applied.
Rae Leigh: No. That's downgrading yourself. I wouldn't allow that on the podcast. Sorry.
Jasmin Bade: I mean, you know, I really don't think they did. And my audition was like sing a few songs you've written and then do like a music theory exam.But like, I, I probably, I could have done terribly on the theory exam. Like they wouldn't have cared. Luckily I had done a lot of theory in school, so it was fine, but I was like, Okay.
I guess I'll sing some songs. I wrote about some boys and, hope that's good enough. And I guess it was and about, you know, got a free ride there and had the time of my life.Absolutely. Studying in Tazzy. Hobart has my heart really. And I tell everyone, you go to Australia, you go to Melbourne, go to Sydney, whatever, but you have to go to Tazzy. Love it.
Rae Leigh: They're very supportive of country music down there too.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah. they love, honestly, they love all the weird.
Rae Leigh: Yeah,
Jasmin Bade: Like really like, I mean, yet I like your bubblegum pop, whatever you want, but if you're not mainstream, they're going to embrace you.
So it was so fun and I got to play, I got to meet the best musicians. I've got to have some writing lessons every week. We'd like these aria award winning writers, Michael , Michael spidey and Charles Jenkins. They help teach us just learn the things that I think a lot of other music juries, maybe wouldn't get to teach you. And I actually did do a semester arm. I T doing music industry, but it wasn't really, for me, I have to just start studying, philosophy. And I was like, why?
Rae Leigh: I don't know why anyone studies that subject it's
Jasmin Bade: it have you study it? I, don't know.
Rae Leigh: I don't understand. It's more of a debate, isn't it really just debating it for a long period of time? Yeah,
Jasmin Bade: I dunno if you stay in the good place, the TV show, but I feel like that is like philosophy a bit. I don't know,
Rae Leigh: like when I want philosophy, but
Jasmin Bade: existential thinking and yeah, so it. just wasn't for me. So I quit there. Luckily I had a year on everyone cause I started school a year early. So by the time I stopped there, I was actually just the same age as everyone else.
so when I went to, when I went to Tazzy, I would say my age and I lived in a college like actual college, like in dorms, um, which,for Australia is like hardly anyone does. Um, I feel would maybe feel like that was like an American. We got, we got like, we had like awake and awake, orientation week. We did like the kind of like Mild hazing, which was fun. Cause it was
Rae Leigh: mild mild tasing
Jasmin Bade: hazing, hazing.not tazing.
Rae Leigh: what's hazing.
Jasmin Bade: So like, like they do here, like when you were like, if you're like wanting to be in a sorority or like a fraternity where they like make you do crazy stuff. Like for example, at like four in the morning, they all banged on our doors and made us wake up and go to the top of a mountain that was crazy and had snow on it.And, yeah.
Right. And then, and then they're like, if you want, you can hike down and we're like, no, but a few people did. Things like that, you know, and like, you know, we were all 18, so it's straight, it's fine drinking things, you know, we were all like, yeah.this is So fun, but then they'd secretly whispering out.You like, by the way, you don't have to do the safety dirt one too. Cause it
Rae Leigh: yeah.
Jasmin Bade: cause they were actually really wonderful and mental health was a really important thing for them. Like they did like.
Like, I really, that people should ask, but then told us not yet, you don't actually have to do this. cause they, cause it was like, you, know, it was like 2015 and that kind of stuff is, is, a no go anymore. Thank
Rae Leigh: Yeah. Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: We, we did a and the next year I actually worked in the college council, as a social convener and helped organize the bowl and everything. And I got, we got dog therapy, so we got dogs to come in in the middle of exams. And it was, you know, we'd have. movie nights where everyone meets, bring their mattresses in the common area.
Like I just had the best time I made the best friends. I'm still in touch with so many of them. I did, I do meet people here who, at about the same level I am in the industry, but are a couple of years down got, cause they didn't go to college.
Rae Leigh: Yup.
Jasmin Bade: And occasionally I'll be like, Oh, if I didn't go, you know, maybe I could have been a few years ahead, but then I'm like, actually, no, I had the best time ever. that's something I would, I would never want to take away. And, and life is not all about, you know, where you can be at the earliest stage it's it's about living. And, and I really, really lived in that time.
Rae Leigh: that's awesome. And it is about perfect timing and you've had some experiences that no one else will ever be able to relate to. I mean, you know, they haven't had that. And so you've got that to draw on and as a songwriter, your life experiences is your value, you
Jasmin Bade: Exactly. I can't write without experience. And I wrote a lot. I wrote so much in, in uni. It like, I just, I, I would be in my, in my little tiny little room, and riding at like two in the morning. I feel like That's really, when I came to be the writer that I am now up until then it was a little bit too much.Like I'm trying to be Taylor swift. And then I finally was like, no, actually I can be my own artists. Cause she already exists.
Rae Leigh: Yeah, I love that. And that's such a common thing. So, I mean, it was Taylor swift has inspired so many young women that they can be in the music industry because she was young, but also the fact that she was a female and in the music industry, when it, you know, it has been very, fairly male dominated for such a long time, that inspiration, has been like spread like wildfire, but it's beautiful that you came to the realization that you get to be the first year, which is awesome.
Jasmin Bade: I heard someone say that, that they, they were like, they said, actually think that it might've been this, this guy, Ray baka. And he was actually her manager, in the beginning, like her Taylor swift album, I feel his album. And then he stepped back cause he was like, I can't do this with a family because you have to be on the road 24 7.
He kind of helps a lot of artists in town and I just saw the team perform, moved here and hate the case, said that like, you know, there's already tested, it has already Kelsea Ballerini. There's already, you know, so you gotta bring something different. Don't write music, that's on the radio because that's already on the radio.You go to write what's next. It's always exciting and nerve wracking because the industries, I think, you get to follow a textbook and know that you got. Yeah.
but to do the same as someone else, and you're going to get that, but here it's in any creative industry, it's kind of, touching, go and follow your own path and hope that that works out in the end.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. You kind of just got to do what makes you feel good? And I think that's, what's contagious. That's, what's attractive to everyone else is watching someone be free in who they are.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah. And hope that they don't crash and burn and we all do a little bit, you know, and that's okay. It's part of the process.
Rae Leigh: Well, it's like why we watch like car races, you know, like we want them to
Jasmin Bade: Oh my
Rae Leigh: also kind of want to watch some people crash. Isn't that terrible, but it's so true. But like no one actually says it, but we were all kind of secretly hoping that there's a bit of a crash so that it's like entertaining.
Jasmin Bade: But that's like every movie, every chick's like, you know, you got to have the downfall to have
Rae Leigh: Yeah,
Jasmin Bade: the, rise at the end. Yeah.
Rae Leigh: Yeah, cause once you see someone crashed, then you're like, you want them to win even more in the few?
Jasmin Bade: So I'm sure it can't just all be off.
Rae Leigh: no, that would be boring. And then people just be jealous and hate you. All right. How, sorry, how did you end up in Nashville after college? What was the thought pattern behind that?
Jasmin Bade: Well, so when I came, when I was 17, I, I didn't know how long I would be here. Honestly. I was like, oh, maybe I got a six month visa in case I was like, I don't want to go for like, and just be able to stay a few weeks. And then in case something happens, then there'll be like, I'll be like, sorry, gotta go by. But I did, I came literally new year's Eve. I arrived. And the year that I finished school at 17 and mum had helped me set up an internship at the blue bed cafe. And so, about the blue Bennet, and, you know, with the whole Taylor swift thing, I love faith hill got there. They all got discovered there and whatnot, and we love the TV show. Nashville. Have you seen that?
Rae Leigh: No, I haven't been, I've been told to
watch it.
Jasmin Bade: Okay. Well, a lot of it's set at the blue bird. You know, these artists all get discovered there and it it's, you know, it's painting a pretty picture. No one really actually gets discovered that, you know, they've all built their own pots, but, uh, you know, just walk it. But I I went to a show that very night there, cause we'd organized it.
And mum just got me the internship, honestly, by emailing the, Erica who managed thin. And she was like, oh my daughter coming, loves the blue bed. Doesn't know a single person. And he's a teenager, what can we do? And she's does she want to like help out? Like, she can't like really get paid because she's like, you know, like on a tourist visa kind of situation, but like she, you to help out around and get to meet people.
And I'm like, yes. Mom woke me up at like five in the morning when she got the email. I remember mom running into my room saying, oh my God, jazz, this has happened. And so I went in and I said, this ride is round. Memory of it. Every year they do a great new year's Eve round. and then I would go in, you know, and wait days.
And it was snowing. It was like this polar vortex in America. Some days it was like minus 15 degrees Celsius. And, your Nashville's a very car driven town there wasn't Uber back then. It was like, you couldn't get any way. The physical one bus occasionally decides to show up, like, it's the truly, that's it.
So I'd be trying to walk around everywhere in is freezing weather. Get taxis when I cooled, but Erica would try and help drive me. And I did a songwriting course while I was here and I got to meet, the best songwriters in the world, like every day. And it shows, it shocked me, but it showed me that it's almost impossible, but it's attainable.
I got to say, this round with Kali Pierce, who, show, you know, you know, a big country rider, big country artists here, scientific machine and around her and Phil Barton, who, I don't know if you know about Phil. He's a big hit, songwriter here in Nashville, but he's Australian and he's from Melbourne too.
And I, I got to speak to Kali a little bit afterwards. I, I feel like you're like better than Kelly, Glakso it singing honestly. And I literally do the best singer in the world and she was so sweet, but she wasn't like a big name then or anything. And I went home a few weeks later and I messaged her and I said, you know, would I be able to get the chords to this one particular song?
You'd like, cause I kind of want to play it at my stars. And she replied like straight away. I didn't think she would even say my message. And yeah. And she's like, Hey, here are the cool it's. Do you want me to film like a tutorial video for you? And I'm like, what, what? And I was so inspired by her and so inspired by saying Phil, because to say someone literally from Melbourne, like from around the. Writing number one songs in Nashville. I was like, I didn't know that I don't really think Cape up and do it. I didn't know that the people do this. I get chills, chills, just thinking about it. And I followed Kali PS on, the journey. Like I'd follow her on social media. I'd see a playing this new place called the listening room.
It was new then. And the blue bedroom that I still, she got signed to big machine records. And this is when I was, you know, going through uni. And I was like, oh my God, I've seen this go rise. And she's been doing this for a while. And then, I moved to Nashville, so I all through uni, I was like saving up, saving up.
I finished, I stayed for six months in Tazzy, just playing show after show, after show wineries, vineyards, bars, pubs. One of my friends, James, he played doers takes with me and went home to Melbourne. Couple of weeks. Just came to Nashville. Again, didn't know anyone. I, in that month I was there before, you know, I was 17. I was basically a tourist.
Rae Leigh: yup, yup.
Jasmin Bade: know anyone, but I came in this summer and I chose to do that on purpose because it.was so hot in the winter when everything was kind of shut down. And, I also had decided that I had to wait until after I was 21, because you can't really get in a lot of places when you're under 21 here. Came on over, I found a group of girls on Facebook that needed a roommate
Rae Leigh: Perfect. Yep.
Jasmin Bade: and they had just finished uni here at Belmont. They'd All studied music, so it seemed perfect, you know? I came on in, I remember the second I got off the plane, I was wearing glasses, not my contact lenses and they fucked up in the humidity.
I knew about the Nashville songwriters association because I had been a member even in Melbourne and I'd sent songs in and they'd said, you know, I love this. So work on this. And so that was the first place I went really. I was like, Let's go there. And they said, Okay.
These places around, good to meet people, maybe go here, you might be able to get in and play a few songs.
I bought a car within like a couple of weeks. That was always in my budget, in my plan. And I used car that I still have now that looks like it's being, driving on a golf course, getting hit every day.
I met people on the very nicotine I'm very chatty person. So I meet people quite easily. I feel like That's from my mom. I was like genetically given that. I got a job. I was on a visa. I could work very specific jobs. I got work hotel reception at a Hilton here and, just chatting, chatting, chatting, got a couple of shows here and there writers' rounds met some friends at the listening room who were working as, waiters there.
I feel Like in Melbourne and in Tazzy, I didn't really know if you could write with other people and I just here in Nashville, It's all you do is co-write it's just like it's whatever it does. All the hit songs, even radio. I mean the pop songs. I mean, I'm sure you have like H writers.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. Like eight, 12. it's
Jasmin Bade: Yeah, it's insane. But we country, you usually have like two to four or five kind of things sometimes.
Rae Leigh: So you said you were inspired when you were seven by Casey chambers.What was it that like actually drew you into music? Like what were you going through or what do you think it
Jasmin Bade: No, it wasn't going through I was
Rae Leigh: I dunno,
Jasmin Bade: or six at christmas and she was on and I just put my whiskey down. I thought I had, this is the stuff, you know? Um, um, no, I, I don't really know. Um, well I know about country music and that's specifically, and it's because of the story. I, I don't resonate with certain types of pop when it's a lot of, when there's no story to it.
And then when there is a story, I'm like, this is my pot. This is, and that's why, for example, when you have, I dunno, like. I got a hundred. We think of as an example, like Ariana Grande, she has certain songs where there's a story. Like she has a song called my everything, and it's from my first or second record or something, but it's called, I think the record is called, buy everything on us.
And, uh, and that song is a story, but then she might have a different song and I thought, I, you think of one, but it's not. And I won't relate to them. It's fun to kajam what, but I wouldn't relate too much to that one. So I don't really enjoy it on such a deep level. And when I was just so little, I guess maybe I just wanted to cry in the car.
I don't know. I wanted that heartbreak at six years old. I, I Casey chambers specifically, ,
loves to write. I think get to the root of the hot, the hot H and M I mean, she does have a lot of sad songs that it's just the truth. And it was the captain that was that album. And then barricades and brick walls.Now I actually know her brother Nash. He lives in Nashville,
and he produced those albums and I told him all this stuff and it's pretty cool that's happened for me.
And then I found, and then we listened to Johnny Cash and I mean, the ultimate storyteller, and even Elvis, which isn't so country, but he has some of that stuff too.And, I think that,
I find it hard sometimes, or at least maybe, before I had like, therapy to,
to tell. People or at least let's just tell everyone how, exactly how exactly how I feel. But to sing it, I guess you feel like there is, a wall up, which to most people, I think it would be the other way.
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: Cause people, how do you seeing it's so vulnerable, but, for singers and songwriters, I think it might be the opposite.
Rae Leigh: maybe,
Jasmin Bade: So I, I, yeah,
Rae Leigh: that like, um, it's just a song, you know, don't
Jasmin Bade: yeah. Yes. But really it's actually all my animals feelings.
Rae Leigh: Which yeah. I think about now. And I think back to like, when I very rarely would share a song with a friend or a family member and it would usually be very dark and that was not who I presented to the world.
And I remember a few times people saying like, where did that come from? Like, oh, it's just a song. And I felt so safe in that. And now I look at it and I'm like, wow, like that was so, so vulnerable.
Jasmin Bade: it's like reading your diary, but you're just seeing it.
Like mom, mom would sometimes go, oh, who is that about? And then eventually go to a site or is it, please do not ask who it's about? What is that? How much of it is true. I've actually had to start saying that to her about my Instagram captions too, because I often write really long, like blogs and I'm like, mom, I don't say in the caption who it's about because, and there's a reason.
And it might not be someone, you know, it, maybe it's not a specific person. It's just a general thought. Well, maybe it's just someone else. I don't know. Yeah, you
Rae Leigh: hiding behind the freedom. Yeah. Hiding behind the freedom of it. Doesn't have to be about someone specific. Yeah,
Jasmin Bade: It used to always be, I mean, in songwriting, I mean, I'm sure you get this wouldn't you have a little, and it was like, it said that this one person specifically that I had, and he's so annoying, or she, she aggravates me to my core and she's so condescending or whatever. And, and now it's that you take inspiration Navy from that one person, but then you get other ideas from other people and other people in the room or whatever.
Rae Leigh: the story? Well, sometimes like for me, I create this, I create a character of who I wish I could be. I don't know. Like, I, I don't, and I've talked to some people about that sort of character creation within a song, and I think I'm falling more and more into that because it's sort of that fantasy writing or, what is it like someone says, don't let the truth get into the way of a good story.
Jasmin Bade: Yes. Yes. I love that. I love that. And like the best comedians, I think do that too. Cause they always start with like something to happen to them and realize, and then you're like, wait, no, this didn't happen. And you're like, no. a part of it did. But if they just told the truth, it wouldn't be funny.
Rae Leigh: yeah. It wouldn't be the same now. I love, I love it. And I think like I'm trying to challenge myself now as well to allow myself to be more vulnerable and to, to come from a
first person perspective. And I think just cause I was hiding behind my songs for so long, But I think you have to kind, I guess you have to get to a point of what you want to share and when you're ready to share it and all that sort of thing. Cause it's a very vulnerable thing to do.
Jasmin Bade: Yes. Yes. And also, especially when you do.
all these interviews and things, and I have a lot, with this, this song, particularly this X's and Y's and people go like you went through a particularly hard breakup and then I go, well, I think everyone goes through something and you know, that's actually, because of this particular song in all honesty is not about one specific guy. And if you listen to the lyrics, it's I don't call them exes. I just call them like it isn't,
Rae Leigh: I think I love those
Jasmin Bade: are generalized or specific rather, but I'll thank you. Thank you. Sorry. I
Rae Leigh: Yeah, no, that's cool.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah. most of them are more specific when they are.
Talking like hate on, on Sunday, but
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: this one isn't so much, it was just kind of like, I'm done I'm over it. And then yet fun people like commenting on social media, like, Oh, boys should not have not to date a songwriter. And you're like, it's mostly, that's my mom commenting that honestly, but you know,
Rae Leigh: Oh, that's too funny.
So now that now that you're riding and I know you've got, a couple of songs released, but what, what is the sort of thought behind when you're branding and you're releasing into the world? What do you think about that you want your audience to pick up on when they hear your music?
Jasmin Bade: right. I liked that. You didn't say what's your sound?
Rae Leigh: I don't know what a sound? is. I
Jasmin Bade: that's so
Rae Leigh: one out.
Jasmin Bade: Let's cause you're cause your people asking you that as well and you don't know how to
Rae Leigh: No, I don't know, but I want to know what your purpose is. Like, what you want to put out there, you know?
Jasmin Bade: My purpose is to get through every day. I honestly, I just want to make people feel like someone understands them because my favorite thing, and when I go damn is when I hear a song is when someone writes something and I feel like they were in my head when they wrote it.
That's why I think that people are so drawn to country music because that's, you're like, how do you write that story? Cause that's my story.
Rae Leigh: yeah,
Jasmin Bade: And that's why I put out I'm fine as my first song. One of the reasons, because in a park now we're getting more and more songs about mental health, which is absolutely fantastic.
But in country, when, when I moved to America, Nashville, you know?I was technically the staff. I noticed instantly. There's the C the mental health stigma is still huge. And coming from Australia, coming from, middle of the city, Melbourne, everyone's constantly talking about, I'm going to my psychologist, I'm on Lexapro and,
Rae Leigh: going to the gym, isn't it?
Jasmin Bade: yeah,Well, and then they're like, and then often they're like, yeah,I go to the gym, but not really for my physical health, like most of my mental health. And, and I'm like, yeah.
great. And everyone's second kid has been hospitalized for something like that. And it's terrible, but it's cause they addressed it and they didn't just hold it inside.Whereas here it's like, no, everyone's just an alcoholic. I'm not even
Rae Leigh: That is the therapy. Isn't it?
Jasmin Bade: like literally it's such a thing here. And I even had someone say to me in my first month here, they said like this, they said only nutcase. And I was like, oh, and I said this well, you're talking to a nutcase. And then thankfully I educated him. Not that he asked for it, unsolicited advice, but, I said, I educated him on how many people go to therapy and I'm like listed off a bunch of like celebrities that openly go to psychologists or therapists or whatever you want to call them. And he was like, what? And I was like, yes, It's just like going to like your GP.
I, I felt like in the staff, people needed to feel like someone understood them and their mental health struggles. And I was sick of also the media romanticizing mental health issues. And it? was around the time that, am I getting paid for this, that 13 reasons why came out? And if you remember that TV show, Yeah, and I felt kind of like. That it kind of glamorized
Rae Leigh: glamorized suicide. Yeah, absolutely. yeah,
Jasmin Bade: And you have so many shows as well, like glamorizing eating disorders and things too. And I was like, if you actually had one of these things, you knew someone close to you That did, this is the last thing you would be doing.
Rae Leigh: Well, I mean, the thing is a lot of those people need attention and we're like, everyone in the world needs attention. That is not a bad thing to want because we all need it. We all need it. And mental health conditions or eating disorders and, and suicidal tendencies. A lot of that, like a big portion of it is that attention deficit at people
that, you know, really seeking it. And I think that show and yeah, like the whole concept of it actually just showed someone who did something bad, get a lot of attention. And yet like may made it look like it was a good idea.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah,
Rae Leigh: know, like this, this works, this is what's going to get you all this attention. Someone's going to write a TV show about you. And I think that's probably why they, cause I kind of have a media ban in Australia about talking about suicide. Do you know that right?
Jasmin Bade: I didn't even know that
Rae Leigh: like that, you know, it's not talked about on the news. It's not shared, really on radio or media. You don't hear about your local dad down the road
Jasmin Bade: that's actually so true over here. I feel like maybe you do hear about that a bit more.
Rae Leigh: on the news.
Jasmin Bade: I mean, I don't watch, I don't even have normal TV, but, I maybe it's just like news. outlets that I see online, but I feel like, or it could be social media that I say it, but I feel like I've heard about it. Well, it could be that I'm just more like culturally aware since I moved here. but I didn't know that that was a thing in Australia.
Rae Leigh: Well, I think it's actually probably good because of like what we just talked about, glamorizing suicide and giving people attention for something that, I mean, not that it used to be a crime, it's not a crime, but it's showing people cause for a lot of people, sometimes the pure goal is to get on the knees, you know, and you hear about.
Jasmin Bade: know
Rae Leigh: People stabbing someone because they just felt like they wanted, that's what they wanted to do to get attention. And so obviously removing that as a thing, by not having it in the media is good, but it doesn't mean that we shouldn't talk about it. And we shouldn't talk about mental health and we shouldn't be there for our friends and family and be aware of it.
Jasmin Bade: right, right. Well, I
Rae Leigh: on the signs.
Jasmin Bade: like, it all been over the news how like mental health, that struggles have like increased significantly or the COVID and
Rae Leigh: Oh, huge,
Jasmin Bade: Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, they haven't, you know, they haven't like, like all they, all that they hide is like actual suicides. They are not hiding them.
Rae Leigh: They're nothiding the idea of it.No,
Jasmin Bade: mental health in general.
Rae Leigh: it's hard. I think it's hard for people to understand because it's not in the media. It's hard for people to understand how bad itis. One in four male, it's just, yeah. And males are the worst in Australia, like for like the statistics. Um,
Jasmin Bade: it's
Rae Leigh: there there's like, there's like all these mental health, first aid courses that people can do like online. And like I did one of those and it's just such an eye
Jasmin Bade: health first day. Cause I didn't even know that that was a thing,
Rae Leigh: Yep. It's a total thing, which, um, I can't even remember why I did it now, but yeah. Oh, I'm so glad
Jasmin Bade: gonna look that up. Um, because everyone should, should do that. I feel like that should be like a prerequisite for so many jobs. Like,
Rae Leigh: songwriters.
Jasmin Bade: I mean literally like boss hinders, cause it's like bartenders are basically like unqualified therapists. I hate dresses.
Rae Leigh: And it's a quick course. It literally is just training you how to read the signs that someone might be thinking about suicide or, or mental or self-harm. And it's also just about how to, how to re how to talk to someone about it and how to refer them to special help if they need it. You know, like it's not, it's just a, it's like a one day course online.
I did via zoom, you know? But I also have like my own extensive therapy, history,
Jasmin Bade: Right. I mean, I am so I'm so glad that you have done that for yourself. And I have done that too. I actually just got a friend. One of my best friends for years has been saying that she would do this. I'm really known her the last year, but she was like, yeah. we'll do it for years.
If You don't adopt, it would just give up Prozac or whatever. And then, and I actually just got her to go to therapy. I think on Thursday she has her. Session. I actually had to like spoonfeed her, like, this is what you've got that you'll do it on a, like a sliding scale. So you don't have to pay hates.
And I know that maybe a family member doesn't want you to go, but you're going to go and you're not going to tell them. And then we will address it afterwards because you just need to go and she's finally doing it and I'm so happy because sometimes you have
Rae Leigh: had to do that to me. Yeah. I needed someone to hold my hand for the first few sessions. I just couldn't do it, you know? And I don't even know, probably I wasn't scared of the stigma or anything. I was scared of what they might actually find inside me. It was,
Jasmin Bade: I know. I think that's what it is for a lot of people. I think that's what It is. And and everyone, everyone has a different thing about maybe why they don't want to go. But it's basically just talking to a friend that is not going to adjust you It's an objective third party observer that is. paid to not judge you.
Rae Leigh: And help validate you and what you're going through. and honestly, like most of the time you do all the talking, but it's just getting it out as well, like journaling, but actually talking to someone and someone going, Hey, that's okay. That's actually quite normal.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah, that's quite normal. That's the best one. Then they go, oh, you know, you don't know how many clients I have that , so common for women in your age group to Bella and yeah. No,
Rae Leigh: And how good does it feel when someone says that to you?
Jasmin Bade: Oh, it's so
Rae Leigh: supposed to be qualified. You're like, oh, thank goodness. I'm not like a complete weirdo.
Jasmin Bade: exactly. And I think It's important to remember for people as well that often your first therapist may not be the right one for you, but that doesn't mean that you should give up on finding one. That is, I think we get scared off. Maybe if it, Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right. They're not just going to give you all the answers, like leave. Like you got to find one that works well for you. like with friends,
Rae Leigh: like dating. Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah, exactly. It's not as hot as dating.
Rae Leigh: It shouldn't be, it shouldn't be,
Jasmin Bade: It shouldn't be.
Rae Leigh: I'm also like a big believer that like, Like pills like antidepressants and stuff like that should be used in conjunction with some sort of talk therapy just to help get you through. But like, it
Jasmin Bade: It's been proven that
Rae Leigh: for the, rest of your life, you know?
Jasmin Bade: the, both of them get that is the most successful way to combat mental illness. Not likely, like obviously, like they can both help individually, But we'd like, significant mental illness. Both of them together, is very, very, very effective. And it took me awhile until I was in my life until I was 21 to go I'm twenty-five now to go to, like a psychologist for the first time, because when I was just 15, 16, my one of my doctors was just like, yeah, take Prozac, take the walks, the teen.
And I did. And, you know? cause even back then, because that's nearly 10 years ago, Even just stand it. Wasn't that common to, you know, and, but then. yeah, as I've been going for years now to, therapists here and I've got a, so many, cause I keep them because I'll be back in Australia for a bit, I'll be here.
I do someone zoom and then my one moved to a different practice than whatever I feel like, I feel like I know them like the back of my hand and I'm like, don't worry. I know how it goes down. And they're like, okay.
yeah, but the song anyway, so it landed with a lot of people really well. I had people messaging me, like people, I didn't know, you know, like from across the world kind of going, like I've never had a song that I felt really understood me, but I, I felt like this one did. And, to have a song in country that addressed it, you know, it definitely wasn't the safest. To have your first ever country single based on what mental health. And I knew that, but I just, you know, essentially I just needed enough press to get me my visa and it did that, but to have a song like with my goal, being to connect with people and to make them feel like someone? understood them was, and that to have that be achieved with that song, really, you know, really was great.
And then when I went back home a few months later and I did a little acoustic solo to, around, the Southeast of Australia, like Victoria and Tamworth and stuff was up in Tazzie and I was selling to random show at like a beach town. And there's this girl there, random girl. And there always a couple of friends and I started playing it.She, all the words. And I was
Rae Leigh: Wow.
Jasmin Bade: I was like, how do you know this? Like, I'm in a random beach town in Australia and I didn't have like a press team. Like she's like, I came to see you if I love this song. And I was like,
Like this is social media did this. And like, I, I, my, my friend who was there, one of my friends filmed it.
And, it's that kind of thing that, you know, shows you how your song connects with someone at my niece, even.
She's 10, 11 now. Bella, I, she, she was at my house the other day, not the other day, last year when I was in Australia and she goes, Alexa, play, I'm fine by Jasmine fade. And I'm sorry if anyone's listening to this and it does that. But I, Yeah.
cause it, cause it'll do that. And then, and then it starts playing and I'm like valid, you know what this song is about. And she goes, I think so she is it's it's about knowing that it's okay if you're not okay. And I was like, I was, I put a tear in my eye and I was like, Oh, like she's also like the smartest late 10 year old you'll ever gonna meet in your entire life.
Rae Leigh: Yeah,
Jasmin Bade: It was so touching that my brother had like, obviously, you know, explained to her about all of this. It was just like Chile to me, how integrate the greatest way, you know? And I loved it. So yeah. But
Rae Leigh: It's very brave thing to do. Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: well thank you. I thank you. I appreciate that. You know, I got to wait a while to release another mental health some now, we got this one.
Rae Leigh: Well, I mean, I think every single song I've released so far has been about mental health and it's been 12 over, less than two years. So I mean, do whatever you want.
Jasmin Bade: Yes,
Rae Leigh: But yeah,
Jasmin Bade: exactly.
Rae Leigh: I think that like, what you've done though, is been very vulnerable and shown people that it's okay. And you probably will never know the full extent of how you've helped people. And I think that that's beautiful and that in a way, because of your experience going to therapy and doing the work on yourself, it's going to impact your music.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah,
Rae Leigh: way like that, just like we said, it's, it feels so good to feel validated, in, in who we are and hear a story that maybe you wouldn't necessarily always hear, like you're doing that through your music and that's going to help people feel that same validation, even if they, they're not going to a therapist, you
Jasmin Bade: right. That's that's so true. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. And the guy that I wrote it with Spencer, he, wrote it with me because his partner at the time, has bipolar disorder. Is it disorder or disease disorder? Surely it's not to seize.
I dunno. I dunno. what it's called. I'm sorry if I've
Rae Leigh: just mental health thing.
Jasmin Bade: Yes, exactly. Yes. And, um, and, uh, and it was very, uh, it was very wonderful for me to write it with someone who entirely understood what I was then the message I was, I was trying to convey. And we wrote it in like, you know, less than an hour. And
Rae Leigh: you love those rights.
Jasmin Bade: I, the always, honestly the best, basically all the best songs I've written have been those kinds of rights, you know?
Rae Leigh: Yeah. Yeah. What about co-writing? What has been your best sort
Jasmin Bade: Oh, I couldn't pinpoint one because I love that. I, I, well, one of them earlier, I referenced someone, having, you know, friends that was so new at the time that, that then would they have, for me when I was going through that really difficult time in my life. My friend Dana she's actually Phil button's partner, Phil, the Australian writeup. I didn't know Phil properly yet. But I met Dana at a writer's round, not knowing that she was Phil's pot
Rae Leigh: yeah,
Jasmin Bade: and, cause that's Nashville and I saw a play and I was like, do you want to ride? And she's like, yes, there's this. And I went to a house and it was literally like a month after this breakup I dad and I had.
Rae Leigh: yeah.
Jasmin Bade: I think I had, I even moved out yet. I don't have to keep living with this guy for like a month. It was terrifying. Yeah,
Good, good times in a one bedroom apartment. So I showed up at a house and she was like, wait, want to write about, and I tell her the breakup and I started crying because you do that when you've lived with a guy for a year and he's, you know, and she said to me, you know, I started, cause I literally just came straight to my house today after riding with her again.
But, she said to me, yeah. she said, you know, Uh, if you try and remember that, everything in life, whether it's good or bad is temporary. And I don't know how long this is going to last for you, but it will be temporary.
Rae Leigh: Yeah,
Jasmin Bade: And we ended up writing a song cold, temporary,
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: And there's one of my favorite songs we've ever written. And it was the first right we ever had. We were to so quickly, I played like all my, my shows, and people love it. When I first, one of the first shows I played that. at all, these people came up afterwards and I was like, where can I hear it? You know? And I'm like, I was let out and, you know, that's the best thing when you get that.
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: and, um,
Rae Leigh: Awesome. All right. Well, I'd love to see you. If you ever come up to the gold coast from
Jasmin Bade: Yes. Oh
Rae Leigh: I, mean, I'm begging to get to Melbourne, but not with the COVID stuff going on down
Jasmin Bade: right, right, exactly. I would love, I love to go cars. I have one of my family members actually had, I have a place up at suffers, so, um, love it up there. So beautiful.
Rae Leigh: It is. Okay. So tell me in all of you've done the courses in the degree and traveling,
Jasmin Bade: Yes.
Rae Leigh: what would you say the best advice is that you've ever been given?
Jasmin Bade: I really think it is kind of what I said, and it goes for both good and bad. And I will reason that it did that, that everything is temporary. And I, my backing for it,
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: bloody paragraphs are, that the bad things, it it's statistically impossible. Like no matter what, that you can feel the same way forever.Like science has proven that. So if you feel absolutely terrible right now, there's no way you can feel the same way forever. So it's going to go away. You're gonna feel even just a slight increment that someday, and good things cannot last forever either. So that's sad, but make them make them. the best that they can be.
Make the time that you spend with your family or your friends make it the best, you know, put down your phone for a second. You don't have to re Yeah.
Yeah. You don't, you Don't have to like reply to someone the second that they message you it's okay. Because if you're spending time with the people that you love, that's better, enjoy, I know everyone says, eat the cupcake, but eat the cupcake. Like, like, you know, I, I
Rae Leigh: enjoy it.
Jasmin Bade: that the last few months. And, in this industry, you get, you get really, like, I must work all the time. I must look the best. It must be the best I must. But at the end of the day, when I say this sounds so bad, but like on your death bed, you're going to look back and you're gonna remember like that, like the, the number of, of like number one songs you had, or, you know, how much money you made in 2019, you're going to remember.
That road trip. You went on with your friend when your car broke dad and you had to change the tire. And it was really funny. Like you got to remember that stuff and I've, I've really kind of just learnt that in the last like year, I think. Cause everything is temporary, that's it? That's the thing.
Rae Leigh: I have three little kids and they're growing up so quickly and it's scary to think that
Jasmin Bade: Oh my goodness. How old are
Rae Leigh: quickly, eight, six, and five. So they're not babies anymore, but they, it feels
Jasmin Bade: They're like little people now. They're little
Rae Leigh: They're little people. Yeah. And, um,
Jasmin Bade: my goodness.
Rae Leigh: I'm kind of getting to that moment where it's like, oh my gosh, they're just going to be adults and like leaving the house so soon. I just want to enjoy it as much as possible while they're
Jasmin Bade: yes, But you are enjoying it. Don't spend time. Don't waste time worrying.
Rae Leigh: no, yeah, no, I'm definitely, I'm enjoying it as much as possible.
Jasmin Bade: yeah, And the fact that you thought about it
Rae Leigh: yeah.
Jasmin Bade: I think, cause it means that you've addressed it and that you will enjoy it I want people to know.
Rae Leigh: Our children are the best to hang out with. Like, I literally got a bit exhausted yesterday because it's school holidays and my five-year-old for 24 hours has been going on about ninja training and how he's got to go on this secret mission that he's not allowed to tell me about, but
Jasmin Bade: not.
Rae Leigh: it's just
Jasmin Bade: No, he's
Rae Leigh: too adorable. Yeah,
Jasmin Bade: all you want to do when you're a little kid is grow up. But when you're growing up, all you want me to do
Rae Leigh: I know.
Jasmin Bade: kid.
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: just, I went when that, that little I, you know. and they're like, they see a bug and they're like, mom, why is the aunt staring at me? It's not, but it is. And they just have this way. It's so amazing. Yeah. I love it. I have so many nieces and nephews because I have so many older brothers and cousins. And when I, when I see them, it's this, this new energy that you can't replicate, unless you truly are that young.
Rae Leigh: yeah. A children's belief in the way that they see the world is so exciting and infectious and you know, they come running, it's like, Hey, Hey, I found a spider. You've got to come look at it. And like, you can't help, but be really excited to go see, look at this spot.
Jasmin Bade: I know. Even if you're not genuinely, you then get excited, like, yeah. I love it. Oh, I guess I can't wait to see, like to see kids when I go home and I didn't used to be excited. It used to be like, oh, kids, but I'm, but I'm past, like, I think that's the thing. A lot of people go through and they're like a teenager, you know, They're like a, kid's so annoying, you know? And then when you become, you got a little bit older.
like, no, look at like, this is amazing. Like, and look at them like growing and how, and I see how my brothers old raising their kids differently and how that in itself is amazing. Like it,
Rae Leigh: There's no right or wrong way. It's just a way, you know,
Jasmin Bade: And they'll do it their own way. That's perfect each individual ways. Perfect. And I just you know, I treat you, I truly appreciate what you're saying, because I think it's fascinating. I couldn't do it honestly. I mean, obviously right now I wouldn't do it, but
Rae Leigh: I,
Jasmin Bade: I, is that what you said. too? Okay. Cause I
Rae Leigh: yeah.
Jasmin Bade: overwhelmed just thinking about it. I'm like, oh God, I can hardly take care of myself. Oh goodness.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. You. I think having kids, yeah. You just do it. I wasn't prepared, You know, I think like I've definitely met people who were like, I'm going to get my whole life in order before I have kids. And like, honestly, you are never prepared for kids.
Jasmin Bade: right. you can't get your life into
Rae Leigh: just, just jump and learn how to swim. That's what
Jasmin Bade: Yeah, I think so. I think they'll always be another thing you can do before you have kids. They'll always be like another thing, I just want to do this. I just want to do this. Like, but like, when you want to have him, like, when you, when you have him, you just deal with it, you do. it.
Like it's the most, it's the most natural thing in the world. Like, so, you know,
Rae Leigh: and you'll never have anything that feels more successful than having a child.
Jasmin Bade: oh, I find, imagine I know
Rae Leigh: valuable thing that anyone
Jasmin Bade: created and raised a human.
Rae Leigh: Well, I'm raising a tooth three humans. So we'll, we'll see how I go. I mean, the, the, the, the, end goal of having a child is just to keep them alive. And like, that is, that is
Jasmin Bade: I mean, if you do that, succeeded.
Rae Leigh: Exactly.
Jasmin Bade: Everything else is just a bonus.
Rae Leigh: it sounds simple, but that's actually, it's harder than you think. Um, it's
Jasmin Bade: Yeah. Yeah. I do hear though, babies are tougher than they look. You
Rae Leigh: Eventually after the first few months. Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: yeah, well, I'm always scared, you know, pressing The button on their head that,
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: self-destruct. Um,
Rae Leigh: yeah. Cause they're so fragile. Independent and yeah. So vulnerable. Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: I do think that that's, was it a genetic flow, like not genetic, but, that, that they have that button, that they should not come out with that.
We've made it this far with, with keeping humans alive. We have not, gone just yet. You know, we got pretty close this last year, I think, but we made it through and population is, still rising. We do have, an epidemic of, population growth, it's okay. See, David Attenborough said, everyone should just have less kids and that'll help climate change.
Rae Leigh: Oh, go away, david and
Jasmin Bade: Yeah, that was his, that's what
Rae Leigh: China tried to do.
Jasmin Bade: right. That's what they tried to do. So instead of, well, I guess we wouldn't have to use somebody like reusable bags and things. We just have less kids. I guess that's a, a thing, but you know, I mean, you've only had three here, every, you know, every other family has like eight,
Rae Leigh: Nice go America.
Jasmin Bade: I feel like it's like, it's like a Southern thing. I mean, you know,
Rae Leigh: Yeah. Okay. My grandmother had nine. I could have had more. Definitely like I'm like my husband and I have only, you know, three times and we have three kids, but I, we made a specific choice to stop
Jasmin Bade: Like no way done now. Thank you.
Rae Leigh: yeah. That's enough meant mentally. That was all I could do it. Cause I had pretty bad personal depression, but
Jasmin Bade: Oh, no.
Rae Leigh: deal with my stuff, you know, so it's good. All right. I'm going to, I'm going to ask you the big question.
Jasmin Bade: Question.
Rae Leigh: if you could co-write with anyone in the world, dead or alive, who would it be and why?
Jasmin Bade: Well, I don't want to say Taylor swift, it's like, don't make your idols. But, and so I won't, so I won't say that I do want to have dinner with her. I do want to have like a gals night. Like I always answer my phone when a stranger rings in case it's like Taylor swift invited me to a over, cause you never know.
Rae Leigh: I hope that happens one day.
Jasmin Bade: it could happen. Right? Like it, I mean she lives in Nashville half the time. So like, she might just be like around the corner at picking me up in her, like escalate or like range Rover, you know, and just like get in, lose over, go to a sleepover and I'll be like, Yeah, we'd like some freshly baked cookies cause she loves to bake and, you know, whatever.
I might say like Liz rose, I just lays that Liz wrote, Tim McGraw and you belong with me and all too well, which is my favorite song of all time. She wrote them all with Taylor and, , I actually, I don't really know Liz, but I was sitting at a table the other night at the listening room and I looked and she was sitting next to me and, she bought all our drinks and, cause Phil, yes, she's very kind Phil. Phil is signed to
Liz's, publishing label and, so he writes it there, like every week, every day.or whatever. And, and I, you know, has dinner with her and whatever, and I'm, you know, Phil and Dana are like, data's whenever it temporary with like my Nashville parents, I had Christmas at their house is last year.
You're not going to go back home. So it was just, it was just me, Phil, Dana and Dana son.
Rae Leigh: Oh, that's
Jasmin Bade: like, they're they're on the kid. And, but Liz. Like writes the stories that I wish I could tell. And she does it in a way that like for Taylor, I think she writes Taylor's stories, but helps shape them in the way that maybe Taylor couldn't at the time.
And to think that I have, like, if I have, I have friends that, conference though, too, that are also signed to Liz's publishing, like it's a very small publishing house, so it's not like, he's not that, you know, he's obviously not easy to getting on, but, I'm kind of close ish, so maybe write with her.
And, but since my whole life, but, you know, a long time over a decade, she's kind of been my, my big one, and accidentally. Through Phil and data. And I didn't even know Dana was with Phil and then Phil happens to be signed to Liz. And, I didn't really believe in like signs, but like, you know, you kind of can't help, yeah. And it feels from Melbourne and like, it just like is like a very medical thing. So,
Rae Leigh: I think we need to have things that kind of help us realize that we're in the right spot doing the right thing at the right time.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah, definitely. Cause sometimes I'll go the other way. And when you have a day where a few things go wrong in a row and you're like, well, that's it. I'm not meant to be here, probably should sign off like
Rae Leigh: Going to quit while ahead, before something really bad
Jasmin Bade: yeah, exactly, exactly.
Rae Leigh: good to follow your gut though.
Jasmin Bade: I'm trying, uh, it gets hard as well. When you have people that you see as doing, like what you think is a lot more successfully than we, that you think they're doing it without help sometimes, but then you realize that No. that's actually not true. Half. This town is full of kids that have parents and millions and millions of dollars, or they, their parents help them. I know what people that his parents moved here for the kid when they were like 11 or 12.
Rae Leigh: To a few of those kids.
Jasmin Bade: yeah. And I mean, and that's great for them and I don't have any spot for them. It just, I think that I always have to keep that in perspective. Like I, I moved here when I was 22 and I got a degree. Yeah, that I, that I had a scholarship for. And then I did all that and my parents are so supportive and, and they helped me pay for my medications.
Cause I have a lot of medications I have to take. They do. And that's great. And they are honestly, I have, I have, I think I have the best fans in the entire world and no one could ever say anything otherwise, no one could prove otherwise. And I think my parents, my friends probably think I had the best parents in the world too, because they have given me so much wisdom and, they're so loving and caring and would give the world from me.
But unfortunately again, as I'm sure you're aware, this industry is one that kind of can be bought.
Rae Leigh: A mixture of talent though, as well. And the
Jasmin Bade: Oh he's declined. Completely town's list.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. But like Jasmine, no one can ever be. You, you know, you. There's no competition because no one's ever going to be able to be a better Jasmine bay than you can be. And that is where your confidence should come from, because, you know, we need you to be exactly what you were designed to be so that we can experience whatever it is that you're going to give to us as you.
And if you're trying to be Taylor or anyone else, it's not going to be you. And that's not what we want because we get Taylor. from Taylor. You know, we don't need more.
Jasmin Bade: We're getting another version of the same one as well.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. Right. Like we, we just, we just need you. And then now you can just like, once you get through that, and I think that's something that all women kind of, we go through this process of learning to accept ourselves and love ourselves. I honestly think that's what the twenties are for is to learn to love yourself.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah. Yeah.
Rae Leigh: once you, once you get that, just, you know, you don't even, you don't even notice anything else going around and you just do it, just be you and do you, and that's all you can do, you know? And
Jasmin Bade: Yeah. Only you can do it. That's not that's so something, my dad always says, all you can do, is your best. And if you've done that at the end of the day, and that's all you can hope for, like it, cause maybe someone else's like best quote in quotation marks looks better than yours, but it is, that's not, that's not your best.
Like, you don't know? what they've got going on. What they've had to go through or haven't had to go through and, who's behind the sidelines and, Yeah.
Comparison is a hundred percent of the thief of joy and in this industry where everything is thrown up online too. Not everything rather.
Rae Leigh: to fall into. Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah.
Yeah. It makes it, it, makes it kind of. Kind of hard to get rid of that sometimes, but, you know, I consciously, have, you know, for example, like unfollow certain people on social media or like muted their Instagram stories and things like that. People that I just know for me personally, and not, not helping me with my, where I'm going in the industry and not helping me mentally, uh, whether it's like a body image thing or whether it's just, how, what shows that they're playing with getting numbers that they're getting on Spotify, things like that.
Rae Leigh: And how great that you can just press a mute button or block,
Jasmin Bade: exactly.
Rae Leigh: Well, I think we're just about done. Um, is it the podcast is yours? Is there anything else you'd like to say before we finish up?
Jasmin Bade: Um, well let me think. Oh, well, you know what? I've talked so much about. I'm fine, but I will briefly talk about X's and Y's this song. If anyone would like to listen is a song I recently put out it's for anyone that is like, hasn't. Whether it's an ex partner, an ex-friend an ex anyone in your life that in hindsight seems like a why?
Like, why did I waste so much time on you in the first place? Whether you know, anything like that? And it's kind of like a whimsical twist on it. Cause I felt like they were a lot of sad country songs that were like melancholy about the breakup or the unfriending or whatever. And I'm, I'm one who writes a lot of those sad months, myself.
Uh, but why not? You know what, when you get over that sadness, you kind of, I feel like said you have friends and you go like, oh my God, why did I waste so much time on that? So you have a giggle and you listened to X's and Y's and you stream it a million times and out of oil play. And instead of breast of emails to
Rae Leigh: That's what I did. I did.
Jasmin Bade: the editorials. Thank you so much. Yeah. Apple added it to their editorial playlist, but Spotify not so kind. So, um, you want to contact
Rae Leigh: I like apples. So that's cool.
Jasmin Bade: yeah. Apple, well, apple, I mean, we all liked apple cause they paid the artists as well.
Rae Leigh: Slightly. yeah,
Jasmin Bade: yeah, Slightly.
Rae Leigh: Either way.
Jasmin Bade: at the spot, you know, Taylor swift again, we'll come back to her always.She said, you know, they're like an essay to them. And then she started like big on their ads on TV and stuff. So
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Jasmin Bade: Yeah. But Yeah. I think it was, there's a lyric video too. You can look at it. Uh, Jasmine bayed.com no eight, the end of Jasmine don't know why. Uh, my parents couldn't afford the eight. I don't really understand it.
That look that one up. I think I'm on every social media platform. I think really I'm on Snapchat, but I don't use it because there's too much.
Rae Leigh: I don't understand
Jasmin Bade: calm down.
Rae Leigh: I use it, but I don't understand it. I'm going to put all your links in the description of the podcast and there'll be a blog on the website. So I'm going to trust.com as well. So if anyone wants to connect toyou, hear your music, go to the YouTube channel, whatever they'll do
Jasmin Bade: I talked to everyone either. Just like, get your message and then like, ignore it. You know, I'll talk to you and you, know, if you want to help me decide the next song, you know, look it up on, look up on Tik TOK, look up on Instagram, some little demos. I have, um, a mate like lip-syncing to them, you know, because everyone does that. now.Cause apparently that's enjoyable to watch someone live sinking in the car.
Rae Leigh: Sounds good to me. All right. Well, thank you so much, Jasmine, for jumping on. I've really enjoyed this conversation. I appreciate it.
Jasmin Bade: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Well, hopefully we'll speak soon.
Rae Leigh: Yes.
