#175 Ricky Duran
Former 'The Voice' Star, Ricky Duran, Releases First Album Since National Debut Space & Time, in this podcast Rae Leigh and Ricky chat about his music, challenges and dreams.
from 'Music City' Nashville Ricky Duran embarks on a new chapter of his life and career – a chapter of recollections and reflections in Space & Time. Ricky puts heart, soul and the components of real life into a dimensional album, encapsulating stories and feelings from different phases over the past 10 years. As each second passes in Space & Time, more of his life is revealed through intricate songwriting, timeless melodies and genre-bending songs. “This album is almost like an autobiography,” Ricky reveals. “Every song on the album has a piece of me from a part in my life. Whether it’s past or present, every song has a different emotion.” For Ricky, Space & Time reveals the good and the bad, including finding love and dealing with the loss of both parents. Duran wrote each song off the album with the exception of one – "A Woman Like Her," penned by hit songwriters Eric Paslay, Charles Kelley of Lady A and Laura Jeanne Veltz, which he performed during The Voice finals. Space & Time Track Listing:
1. “Shine” (Ricky Duran, Eric Paslay)
2. “Star” (Duran)
3. “Selfish Love” (Duran)
4. “Waiting On You” (Duran)
5. “She’s Like Whiskey” (Duran)
6. “As The Sun Goes Down” (Duran)
7. “Circles” (Dakota Colby, Duran)
8. “She Closed Her Eyes” (Duran)
9. “A Woman Like Her (Live Acoustic)” (Charles Kelley, Paslay, Laura Jeanne Veltz) “There’s a lot of soul in each song on the project with a different flare and story. It’s definitely a collection of some of the best music I’ve made to date.” Space & Time is available today on all platforms [https://lnk.fu.ga/rickyduran_spacetime]. and merchandise, including physical CDs, shirts, mugs and more, is now available online at www.iamRickyDuran.com. To stay up-to-date on new releases and upcoming tour dates,
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Transcript
Rae Leigh: Welcome to a songwriter tryst with Ricky Duran. How are you?
Ricky Duran: I'm doing great. Thanks for that.
Rae Leigh: And congratulations on space and time. It's a beautiful album. I have a husband at home who is obsessed. So I'm looking forward to hearing more about your journey and how you got to where you are today. I like to start this podcast by getting you in your own words.
Tell us a little bit about who you are and where you come from.
Ricky Duran: Yeah. My name is Ricky Duran. I was born in Worcester, mass. To my parents who came from Guatemala, when they were 21, my dad was a musician and that's what he was doing. Full-time until he had my three older sisters and finally me, and music's always been a part of my life. From my earliest memories that I remember my dad having parties at the house, with my uncles and him playing piano or guitar and singing.
And, I think that's, that was my first. Inspiration. And it drove me to start learning piano and guitar at the age of about six. I picked up the guitar.
And then, I never really, I never looked back and I only saw that as an option for my future. When I graduated high school, I only applied for one college and it was Berkeley calls the music.
Luckily I got in there, I graduated in 2011, in my time. and there was really, you know, studying.
Different genres of music. I was super into blues rock and I still am. But as well as jazz and huge John Mayer fan. Yes, we too.
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Ricky Duran: Yeah, he's great. I've seen him probably
Rae Leigh: here in the vibes.
Ricky Duran: I've seen him probably about six times. So,
Rae Leigh: Oh, wow. Lucky doesn't come to Australia that often.
Ricky Duran: So I graduated college and with a music business degree and I, I pursued music, full time. I was playing just, you know, small bars or venues and, and private events. And, you know, I wanted more for myself as far as I want it to become my own artist. So I decided to move to Austin, Texas. I had an opportunity where I got on the show, the voice, which was a monumental for me.
Rae Leigh: Oh, congratulation.
Ricky Duran: thank you very much. It really
Rae Leigh: Is that the voice in America or is it like a Texas version of
Ricky Duran: Oh no, it was the U S NBC's The Voice. And, I play second on that show, and it really got me, seen by a whole new group of fans.
Rae Leigh: Yeah.
Ricky Duran: and you know, since then I've been writing music and, just released my album, as you said earlier, space.
Rae Leigh: Yep. So this is sort of all on the backbone of being on that TV show and then being exposed to a whole new fan base, and being able to be a your own artist. That's really cool. It's a fantastic thing that they're doing with the voice, giving artists a chance to be seen and share their music. and they've been doing it for a lot of people that we've talked to. And that's really cool. Tell me about your dad and like, did he perform do gigs And things or was it just in the home? Like where did he start music.
What was the story?
Ricky Duran: yeah, he was playing music in Guatemala. he had
a band and, they were decently known down there. He was, he would tell me he had some TV show every Sunday that his band would play on. But then when he moved up to the states, he started playing, just basically bars. There was like, you know, the 99. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that. A chain restaurant and in Australia, I'm not sure they're there, but he used to play there on the weekends, and just private functions. And it was, it was mainly family parties because by the time I was old enough, he had stopped working as a musician and it kind of was, making his money doing some more corporate gigs.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. So if he was, having a lot of success, in Guatemala, what was, do you know what the reason for the move was
Ricky Duran: Yeah, for sure. Well, no. So his brother, yeah. His brother had moved to Massachusetts, but really he wanted, a better life and he had heard, you know, rightfully
so in my opinion, that. There was a lot of opportunities in the United States that he could take advantage of. And he had the
opportunity, which, you know, not a lot of people do too to move to, the states. And he took that.
Rae Leigh: And that's set your life on a completely different journey and the way that he's inspired you to play music. I, I have music instruments out everywhere, and I have three kids. And my dream is that one of them picks up an instrument, but you can't force these things. You just got to leave. Little bread comes at
Ricky Duran: Exactly.
Rae Leigh: So what was it about music for you that, that really was like, there's no other option. This is it for me.
Ricky Duran: It just, I felt so connected to it and it came, it came from. Easier to me, like I had, I was, had an ear for music and more than that, it was a, an outlet for me.
So anytime, you know, I'll come back from school, whatever feeling I had, whether it was sad or excited, it would come through whenever I picked up the guitar and it was a way for me to express myself. And, one of the main, main reasons that I continued with it is I saw people's reactions when I prefer. And my first performance was in fourth grade. I played the, local talent show and my school and I played on top of your life by green day. Yeah. And people just were in awe and I love watching that video cause I get on stage and I'm like a whole four feet and the guitars like bigger than me. But it's, I think that was the first time I realized, you know, I really. Being on stage and, and getting people excited about music.
Rae Leigh: That's incredible. There's no way I would have ever performed on stage that wasn't a church at that age. So you've obviously got a lot of courage. It took me. a long time to be able to singing to anyone. You then obviously went to Berkeley. That was, that would have been a whole other experience. What was your favorite part of studying there?
Ricky Duran: My favorite part was where the other students, for sure, the teachers were great, but really whenever class was done, I lived at the dormitories and there was always a jam going on downstairs. and there was some insane players that were. Surprise you every day was something different. And, I learned just as much from them, I think, as I did in class.
Rae Leigh: That's so cool. I've I have heard that a few stories from, we had pet Pedersen on, but we've also had a lot of. Half students and full students, I call them half students. Cause they only did the two
Ricky Duran: Yeah. Yeah.
Rae Leigh: from Berkeley, but you know, yeah. The stories of, everyone just being so incredibly talented, but being around people who love music, when you go back home to your small country town or wherever you're from, sometimes it can feel isolating because you know where music heads are can be so.
Spread between. So being in a space like that is only going to inspire you to work harder and just really delve into it. So I'm glad that you, you came out the other end. So did you go straight to the voice after that? Or what was your journey after
Ricky Duran: After Berkeley was interesting. So I. I auditioned for the voice in 2012 and I got to the blind auditions, but I didn't get any chairs. I got there the last day and they, you know, they gave me encouraging information. They were like, come back. There's like only a couple of seats left. And at the time I was pretty upset and I was like, I'm never doing this again,
sir. And you know, I was kind of discouraged. So I went home, And I just started playing out again, you know, and just practicing and writing. And, I never thought I'd audition again until the opportunity kind of just fell in my lap. When I moved to Austin Texas,
Rae Leigh: yep. So that was after 2012. How long did it take for you to go.
Ricky Duran: 2019, I was back so seven years ago.
Rae Leigh: so what did you do in those seven years
Ricky Duran: I just, kind of, I mean, I was just making money and playing shows, but you know, also I was practicing and kind of refining my voice and my guitar and, you know, I'm always looking to improve on, you know, my musical skills and all that. So yeah, it was making money and not really thinking about it, but I was prepping.
Rae Leigh: That takes some serious resilience and, passion to, to not just, not even just like doing the audition and not doing it again. Cause I mean, there's so many people that would never go back and do it again.
Ricky Duran: Right,
Rae Leigh: would never do it but a lot of people don't actually don't do it once they have that rejection, they're like quit and go get a corporate job with,
Ricky Duran: Yeah.
Rae Leigh: um,
Ricky Duran: see symptoms.
Rae Leigh: Yeah, I've actually, that was one of the, I've never really applied for anything like that, just because I've seen so many people get rejected and then quit music altogether. And it's like, well, I can't afford, like I can't live without music. So I don't know.
For some reason I thought that being rejected from a TV show would stop that it wouldn't now, but for a long time, that was something I believed in it does it like there's so much rejection in this industry.
Ricky Duran: especially on a TV show because unfortunately the way that it's perceived by most people who view the show is that those coaches. Have the end all like decision. And if someone didn't turn for you, then that means you're not good. Where in reality, there's so many factors, especially on a reality show that go into play
Rae Leigh: yeah.
Ricky Duran: so I, I don't know, there was a lot of, a lot of great singers that I've met on the show that didn't get a chair chair and also,
Rae Leigh: Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing we, we, we say reality, in quotation marks, when we talk about reality TV shows, because there is so much choreograph and planning that happens behind the scenes. And that is a good
thing for people to be aware of if you're a musician or a songwriter or someone who's thinking about those shows.
But I don't think it's just those shows it's like anything, you know, it's usually never personal. It's usually comes down to, sometimes it can come down to the right look
Ricky Duran: Yeah.
Rae Leigh: A million different factors. But it, it, I think it takes a long time to learn rejection. Like I did a lot of, I do acting as well and modeling, and I did that before I did music.
And even just doing that, you've got to learn that it's never personal. It's always just some small little thing that they're looking for and you either have it or you don't, and there's, it's got nothing to do with whether they think you're a good, decent human being or not.
Ricky Duran: Yeah. I've actually been trying to get into acting a bit. I guess I haven't pursued it as much, but I went to a couple auditions. I didn't get picked,
but like you said, you know, I think it's the part. If you don't fit the part that they're looking for, then someone
Rae Leigh: it. Sometimes it can be the clothing, you know, sometimes you just like fractionally too tall or too thin or too fat I've, you know, I've, I think I've only been for one audition where I was too thin. I'm like, well, I'm quite happy with that rejection, but, I actually, my first ever TV appearance,
Where I was actually speaking. So like I've done hates of sort of background and stuff, you know, as you do my first. Feature position. Cause I was putting pressure. My agent was actually singing, you know, and it was singing an original song as well as I was like, okay.
Maybe, maybe the world is just saying stop trying to be an actor and just do music.
Ricky Duran: That's pretty cool.
Rae Leigh: So yeah. We'll see what happened. Okay. So tell me about your album. What was, you know, is this just like going off the
momentum of the show and releasing it? Cause I mean, do these songs, are they all new? Are they collection of what you've been doing over the last however many
Ricky Duran: So yeah, there is definitely collection of songs that I thought, desert. to to be heard, I think sometimes artists approach an album with a, with a general like, okay, this is how the sound's going to go. This is the concept. This isn't a concept album really. I mean, I made it a concept album in a way by calling it space and time,
because I feel like that encompasses everything.
It's everything on this album, is true events for my life, for the past, about 10 or so years?
There's a lot of personal stuff on the record. I lost my dad to suicide in 2012 and I lost my mom to breast cancer
in 2018. And I wrote, you know, two of these songs waiting on you is written in the perspective of my dad, things that I would, kind of expect him to tell me or say to me after the fact, and then a song like she closed her eyes, pretty immediately after my mom passed. And it was just a very heartfelt and, one of my band members, Dakota, he messaged me after the album came out and he was like, man.
it takes some serious serious balls to put this out there. Cause there's a lot of really really personal stuff.
Rae Leigh: And that is, I mean, losing a parent and then losing both of them and then singing about it and sharing that on a, on a world stage is huge. What, what is it about sharing those stories for you, you know, from that experience?
Ricky Duran: So I gotta be honest. It's hard. And it took me years to be able to talk about that or even about, you know, losing my dad in 2012, but you know, my time on the voice. Allowed me to open up about it because they would interview me and they really wanted to hear about that. And I found that,
you know, for a minute, I, I almost had a, a moment of do I want to share this with the world because this is, you, know, close to me.
But the way I saw it was, if I'm going to be an artist and I want to be in the limelight, then people are going to know my business, regardless
of. So I shared my story and, and I gained some really, really close fans. I would get messages, you know, encouraging me or just telling me their story of loss.
And I just keep getting these messages, especially now that I've released my record with, with those songs on them. So that's, it's I found strength in telling me.
Rae Leigh: That's beautiful and lots of congratulations because it is inspiring. And we sometimes the shame of going through an experience, especially like suicide. There is so much shame that surrounds that particular topic. And when there's shame, there's no talking and there's no sharing. And then that's, that's where the healing happens. And so as you know, For some people, you would have been the first person that probably spoke up about it and maybe actually started there and, or inspired someone else's or many other people, hopefully his healing journey through their own experience with losing someone to, to that. And that's something that I personally believe needs to be talked about. And it's nice and these sorts of things that we can, it's not something that I obviously would encourage or glorify. And I do feel like a lot of unfortunately music and some things do kind of glorify it, but it's something that we need to be able to talk about so that we know that, you know, if you're feeling that way, And you're feeling down.
That's fine. We all have moments of mental health struggle, just because you have a moment where you're not coping with life, doesn't make you a crazy person or make you like permanently, mentally ill and have to go on antidepressants for the rest of your life. Usually for most people it's, it's awake or it's a couple of months, or it might be a couple of years, but you can always get out of it.
At, at your own time, in your own time and your own pace and with whatever support you need. But, sometimes. I think, you know, and I've had to have this conversation with other people who have lost their parents to suicide, as well as like, sometimes some people are just in a really bad emotional place.
And that just, it's a moment decision that, you know, they're not thinking clearly, it's not like they've abandoned you or even thought about anything else. They've just been that bad and they've not had anyone there to stop them and it's happened and you know, it it's hard, but
Ricky Duran: Yeah, well said.
Rae Leigh: know, we all feel it.
Ricky Duran: Yeah, I think, like you said, I think it's an important thing to to like kind of unveil it. and bring the shame away from the subject. I've done actually, a couple of benefits with.
An organization out here called the American foundation of suicide prevention. I had a concert, I guess it would have been last late last year at the blues club Antone's and all the proceeds went directly to that. As well as my single, which is on the record, waiting on you, all the proceeds for the first week, went directly to, to that organization.
Rae Leigh: That's fantastic. Well done. And I'm sure they do a lot of really important work and something we'll just have to keep sharing. But thank you for opening up and being vulnerable. Cause I agree. I think that is a part of being an artist. Is that. We're leading the
way on being vulnerable and opening up for, for people that can't, because it does take courage and not everyone can do it so well
Ricky Duran: Right. Thank you very much. Sorry to bring it in that direction, but.
Rae Leigh: Nah, I'm I'm, really glad you did. So I love it when, you know, I don't love it when that sort of stuff comes up, but
I, I love it when people are open to talking about real personal stuff, because it's, for me at the side of this podcast, I always say music saved my life. And I, I come from a history
of like long-term child, sexual abuse and music helped me through that when I had no one else to talk to. And that's where it's like, music has this powerful place of healing that
isn't diagnosed. It's not prescribed to us by a doctor, but it's something that connects us and allows us to share these stories and feel seen and heard and express ourselves. And when we release it, like you've done, you know, it gives other people who don't have the musical gift or the songwriting ability to also express themselves through that music that you've created.
So like, that's just a huge gift that you've got. Who, who knows? You'll never know the full impact of what you've, what you've done. And that's beautiful.
Ricky Duran: Well, thank you very much.
Rae Leigh: All right. Let's tell me about your songwriting experience. Okay. So, you started writing songs really young. You said you were expressing your emotions, you know, just from coming home. Tell me about how that songwriting has developed, especially going to Berkeley. And when did you start co-writing and what's that experience like?
Ricky Duran: So yeah, so my writing style to start was primarily. Musical. I know this sounds weird, but it was, it was not lyrical. At first. I was just kind of focused on my guitar playing because I was so obsessed with like people like Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jimi Hendrix and, Albert King, Freddie king, all those guys.
And, it took me a while to, I think, look, you know, now I take a step back and look at the song as a whole, as opposed to a guitar. I'll look at it as like, Okay.
what am I saying with a song? What's the story? What's the feel like everything, every musical aspect of the song has to coincide with the story itself for me.
And that's the way I was looking at writing this record. And I think I'm only getting better as a songwriter. I think usually that's the case. The more you do something, but, The co-writes also are a new thing for me. I have two co-writes on this, this record. One is shine that I co-wrote with. Eric Pasley, he's a really talented songwriter from Nashville.
Who's written countless hits. And I was blessed to be able to work with him. I went to Nashville, we recorded in the studio there.
Another co-write was with my bass player, Dakota Coby, and that's kind of an RMB track called circles on the record.
Rae Leigh: Yep.
Ricky Duran: And Yeah. I just been loving co-writes. I will say though, it can be difficult. It's like, you know, it's different for everybody in and, very, it really depends on the style of writing in the comfortability you have with the other writer, artists.
Rae Leigh: And if they are an artist or, I mean, not artists but performing artists. or whether they're the songwriter, the lyricists or, yeah. I mean, there's so many different people. What do you find the hardest thing about a co-write that you have had to work through and develop?
Ricky Duran: Yeah. Being for me, it's being open and the ability to share ideas that are definitely not going to be the best at first, but knowing that you're working towards something better. So, you know, I'm kind of a perfectionist in a way that I don't like to share my ideas until they're from. So that, you know, they're accepted the best way possible, but you really can't approach it like that for a co-write you have to throw out all the ideas no matter, or really don't even think about it. Just say the idea you're saying at the moment and, go from there.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. There's no such thing as a bad idea in a co-write. And even though, you know, in your head, it sounds weird, or it sounds wrong, but you've just got to say it anyway, because you never know what it's going to spark in someone else's brain. And it's that magic that comes out. And that's where I think it is. It's nice to feel comfortable with the person you're writing with and just get that vibe of who you both are. And that accepts. Safe space before you make an absolute fool of yourself, but what happens in a co-writer stays in a co-write isn't that? The rule.
All right. Cool. So, tell me now through, I mean, you've just, you've done so much and, and you've been so persistent and I'm really, inspired by your resilience within the industry and with everything else you've gone through. With all of it put together. Is there a moment where someone's given you a piece of advice or there's been like something that's really just kept on coming up for you that you want to share?
Ricky Duran: I can't remember a specific time, but it's about the entire experience and, and you kind of met, he touched on it. It's it's about being resilient and there's, you're definitely going to have as an artist, you're gonna. Moments of doubt, you're going to have failure, you know, just like I didn't make it on the voice. Then I went home and just kind of played gigs for years until an opportunity came my way. You never know when that opportunity is going to come. And if it's, if this is something that you have a real passion for, I would just say, stick it out and give it your 100%. And, I found that something usually will come in.
Rae Leigh: That's right. I believe in as well, the rain stops raining And,
the sun comes out eventually. It's just a cycle. Isn't it. That's beautiful. What about, for, I like to kind of ask this in a self prospective way. If you could go back in time and talk to yourself as a teenager, And give yourself a piece of advice What would you share with yourself?
Ricky Duran: It's kind of a basic one, but I would just say write more. I think I should have spent, well, I could have spent more time writing, at a younger age, as opposed to, I mean, I was looking at it from a instrumental perspective, so I guess yeah, I worked on my guitar chops, which is also nice, but, yeah, I think I would have started writing sooner.
Rae Leigh: I think that's good advice as well. My parents brought me up this box from when I was a kid the other day. And, there was a song in there from over 20 years ago and I was like, whoa, I really,
Ricky Duran: That's great
though.
Rae Leigh: I mean, it was terrible. I don't know if I'll live in share with anyone.
Ricky Duran: remake it.
Rae Leigh: But yeah, it's like this sort of songs that was more of a diary really, but it's, it is it's, it's good to get that practice. I used to rewrite like songs cause I come from a really religious family and we went and technically allowed to listen to the radio or anything. And so I would, like I loved green day, for example, you mentioned them earlier and I would like rewrite the lyrics in like a
Ricky Duran: Oh, no
Rae Leigh: that.
Ricky Duran: That's a wild.
Rae Leigh: I like it was, it was just like, I was allowed to like play and listen to the song or whatever. And, um, and then, yeah, and I look at it now and I'm like, man, that was really good training to like teach myself to write lyrics by rewriting someone else's lyrics that were like all depressing and stuff into like a
Ricky Duran: Yeah. Yeah, no, you're right.
Rae Leigh: but, but the comical now to me, I think that it's just funny.
Ricky Duran: It's like a kid's bops version of, uh, you know, the kid bop, uh, albums.
Rae Leigh: Oh no.
Ricky Duran: Oh, it's like, so they'll take rock songs that might have swears in them. And they'll just like, kind of extract those and put different words in, have kids sing it.
Rae Leigh: Yeah, my kids like they have, dynamo. Is one of the songs. I think that's been kind of done that and they sing it. I've just, I've got three kids in the last one's just finished kindergarten and
they have this like graduation ceremony and they have like the gowns and the hats and everything. And they're like five it's really cute. And they all sing that
song. It's hilarious. Anyway. All right. If you could work with anyone in the world, dead or alive, who would it be and why?
Ricky Duran: I mean, this is a whole band, the Beatles. I would probably
work with John Lennon in particular.
Because obviously he's such an incredible songwriter. But you know, I was in my head, I was going back and forth between Jimmy Hendrix or John Lennon, but I feel like I play guitar very similar. not saying I'm as good as Jimmy hendrix, but I grew up listening to him. So
Rae Leigh: You're pretty
Ricky Duran: I kinda mimicked him. So I feel like I would bring something else to John Lennon's music.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. And then that's that, I mean, that's what you want to bring to, any sort of collaboration is you want to have a strength that you're not going to be competing for that spot in the space. Yeah.
I mean, and have you seen the new documentary that the, well, it's obviously not new, but
Ricky Duran: no, my friends keep telling me to watch it on Disney plus I guess. And, It's, really cool. They're telling me, you can see the actual moment when. For instance, I think it was Paul McCartney starts writing get back
and it's just behind the scenes and that's just such an incredible thing. I have to go and watch that.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. it's it's long, I've watched half of it, but yeah, it's like watching them in their writing space and how respectful they are of each other, in that space as well. And that ability to really just look at the noses up about things. Really good. I think. And just taking on every idea and just giving it a go and then just seeing what happens. I guess that's, that was the magical. Yeah. And to see that it's really
really inspiring. That's kind of like the official questions that I have and I, I mean, I feel like we could talk for another three hours on multiple different topics, but is there something like I know with, I love shine and I love she's like whisky, but with space and time. What's your goal with it? Are you going to tour what's happening over the next 12 months for you and your career? What are your plans?
Ricky Duran: yeah, I'm planning a tour. I have some shows lined up right now, that are firmed up. We have a show in LA at hotel cafe on the 11th of this month, followed by a show in Austin. The end of February, it's a place called continental club. And then, let's see, I'll be back in my hometown of Worcester for a show in may. and I love going
to my hometown because so many fans there, I played a show in October. There's a 2000 seater Hanover theater. It was just epic. It was probably my favorite performance. Of my life thus far, but, yeah, for the future, I'll be hoping to tour the
album, and you know, just pushing it as much as I can, But I'm always working on new stuff. I'm in the studio pretty regularly and, just writing, writing more.
Rae Leigh: That's awesome. Well, I can't wait to hear more. I love what you've done already. And I think, you know, you've really rounded out who you are as an artist and done a lot of work and it's all hopefully paying off for you. And yeah, I'm really glad that
you've been a part of the show. I'm going to put all of your descriptions, your socials, your music, into the description of the podcast.
It'll also be in a blog on the website somewhere to tourists.com. But if there is anything else you would like to say, the podcast is completely.
Ricky Duran: No, I just want to say Thank you. so much for having me. It's been a pleasure and, to anybody who's listening right now, please go check out my record space and time on iTunes, Spotify. And thank you so much for the support.
Rae Leigh: Well, we're a very, very obedient audience. So we're all going to go listen to it. and I hope I get you see perform live one day. That'd be great. You have to come to
Ricky Duran: I know. I really want to
Rae Leigh: We'd love you to come over. That'd be great. All right. Thank you so
Ricky Duran: thanks so much.
