#161 Jaimey Hamilton


 

Jaimey Hamilton developed cancer as a child and was in and out of hospital until age 12 having a bone marrow transplant and is now cancer free. She used songwriting as a form of release and healing while she was riding the wave of her treatment and emotional state. She claims that music and the support of the people around her and her family have helped her stay strong and kept positive.


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Rae Leigh: Welcome to a Songwriter Trysts with Jamie Hamilton. How are you doing

Jaimey Hamilton: Good. Thank you. How are you doing?

Rae Leigh: I'm good. Tell us a bit about where you're from. You are in Canada. Is that right?

Jaimey Hamilton: I am. Yeah, so I'm actually in BC. I live on Vancouver island and I live just outside of Victoria. So a ways away from you guys, but. 

Rae Leigh: I was born in Victoria, Australia and Victoria. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Honestly. Yeah. Cool. Cool. 

Rae Leigh: All right. So tell me a little bit about, you know, where you come from and how you started writing music.

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. So I'm actually born and raised here in Victoria, BC. So I've been here my whole life. I started playing music. I actually started learning guitar when I was about nine years old. And then from then on, I just really gained a passion for it and songwriting and music. school that kind of all came. Later, but I've been doing it ever, ever since I was about, nine. Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: So why did you pick it up? Well, like, was there something that inspired.

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. So I've had quite a bit of inspiration. So when I was younger, I actually am a three time cancer survivor. So with that, I spent a lot of time. Yeah. A lot of time in hospital. And of course with that, I had to miss out on school, you know, hanging out with friends and sports. And, yeah, you know, it was a, definitely a difficult time in my life, but I think my silver lining out of It is. that I really gained a passion for music.

It was, yeah, it was kind of the one thing that I could always count on, you know, I wasn't. I didn't have to give it up and all that. And I really found songwriting through that. It was just a songwriting was a great way for me to get all my feelings out and it was just a really great healing outlet. Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: That's fantastic. You were quite young when you had cancer 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. So my first diagnosis was when I was five and then yeah, just no, that's, that's all good. And then. when I was nine years old, I relapsed and then relapsed again when I was 12. And when I was 12, I had a bone marrow transplant. Yeah. So it's 

Rae Leigh: And that's. 

Jaimey Hamilton: yeah. Yep. So far so good. So this summer, this summer it'll be 10 years. 

Bone marrow transplant. So it's going to

be a big one. 

Rae Leigh: Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean, cause what a childhood too, 

I mean, not just for you, but your whole family and your friends and your parents. And I 

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh, totally. 

Rae Leigh: an emotional, traumatic experience on top of having to deal with. You know, the concept of being unwell and what the future looks like and the uncertainty of that, there's, there's the emotional roller coaster that everyone goes on, you know, throughout the whole family.

How did you guys sort of stick together through that?

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. and Yeah,

totally. Like you say, it's, it affects everyone, so I have two siblings. I have a older sister and a younger brother and of course my parents. So, you know, through that, we just, we had to learn to be positive. That's kind of. The way that it worked for us and, you know, we're a very close family.

So we were all able to, you know, when I, when I was home are all able to spend time together. And when I was well enough and all that, so they are, such a big part of my life and a big part of my, healing, you know, they were, if I didn't have them, you know, I just. I don't know where I'd be, you know, and they continue. 

Rae Leigh: positive. 

Jaimey Hamilton: yeah, i, you know, like I just, yeah. I really have to thank them for everything because without them, Yeah. Yeah. They definitely made it easy for me, you know? 

Rae Leigh: Oh, that's never something that anyone should have to say easy made it easy for going through cancer, but, I'm sure it wasn't easy on any of you as a family, but it's amazing to hear you being so brave and being so positive through it all because it, you know, it's not easy to go through something like that as a family for any of you.

 And. It's beautiful to hear that you guys have been managed to stay positive and actually sounds like you've kind of gotten stronger through it all as well. Like you you'd have a deeper appreciation for the time that you have together because of what you've been through. And that's beautiful.

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. Oh yeah, totally. You know, I always, I always say, you don't know how strong you are 

until you have to be. 

Rae Leigh: Yep. Yeah, I can relate to that. That's for sure. I didn't have cancer, but I had a lot of, um, trauma as a child as well. And it, it, you have to like grow up quicker. It's kind of like trauma, false wisdom and growth, and you kind of miss out on just being a naive kid, you know, like, But I dunno, I've got three children myself now, and they're all quite young and I have a daughter and it's beautiful to see them like living through what I hope is a fairly normal childhood where they can just enjoy being kids.

And I get to enjoy being a kid with 

Jaimey Hamilton: with them. Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: yeah. So, I mean, 

turns around, turns out okay. In the end, but it can be really hard in those moments to be able to see any positivity coming out of it. So, yeah. Your inspirational, 

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh, well, thank you. 

Rae Leigh: the music? 

Jaimey Hamilton: it 

Rae Leigh: your journey?

Like what's your journey with sharing and how have you found sharing your story and your music with people?

Jaimey Hamilton: You know, I, I almost find it even more, I guess, as I get older, it's very therapeutic to talk about it. When I was younger, when I was going through it, I think it was hard for people to ask and it was hard for me to talk about, but I was always very open to it. And now that I'm older, I, I just want to be. 

 Light for people that are either going through the same thing or going through something else. So, you know, like everyone has a story, everyone has their battles and I just want to kind of, Yeah.

Be a light for people and be like, wow. She went through something and she made it through, you know, she's doing what she wants now.

And, I just want to be that inspiration for people.

Rae Leigh: That's beautiful. You are the light at the end of the tunnel.

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh, nice. That's sweet. Well, yeah, it's just, and I'm sorry to hear that you had some trauma when you were young and stuff, but you're right. It really does. It makes you stronger And you know, wiser, it really does. 

Rae Leigh: it 

does. And it's not like the greatest way, but we do learn drastically and we probably learn quicker from pain than any other form of emotional because we have to survive and we have to adapt. And like you said, you only know how resilient you are until you have to be, And we all have to be resilient at some point in our lives.

And some of us have to do with it quite young, but that's okay. Everyone's on their own journey. And I, I think that, you know, not a lot of everyone has their own story, like you said, and a lot of people go through heartache and pain, but it takes a whole nother level of. Love and compassion too, to share your story.

So bravely and be willing to talk about something that is painful and hard. And I think that that's a real gift and beautiful thing for you to do, to share that with, with other people, because you know, there's something that people don't talk about. Like you said, like, I don't know, like my grandma went through cancer and I knew plenty of people who've gone through cancer and I'm that person that's like, I don't know what to say.

You're like, what, what do you say? And how do I. How do I process this?

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. it's, it's hard. Cause it's, you know, it's an uncomfortable thing to talk about, it's not rainbows and butterflies for sure. But I think, you know, talking really does help it. And it's important to find an outlet for that. When I was younger, that was songwriting and I, and I think that's just why I've gained such a love and a passion for music is because I found a way to express myself. I listened to music that spoke to me, and it's just very important to find something where you can express yourself and let go. Yeah.

Rae Leigh: I totally agree. That's exactly what I did, but I couldn't share it with anyone for a very long time. It's it? Yeah. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, 

Rae Leigh: brave to be so vulnerable.

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh, well, it's, I guess it's taken me a bit to, you know, I've, I always want to write songs, you know, about my journey and stuff, but it's hard because I want to get it right. And I, I guess I'm a perfectionist in that way, but yeah. So yeah, soon, someday when I have 

the current insist, I get so. 

Rae Leigh: So what's been your journey so far as a recording artist, like what was the decision process for you going from just, you know, using it as a therapeutic tool to express yourself, to actually going, I'm going to share this with people and how do I do that? And what's that journey look like,

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. So when I was younger, I just started performing when I was, I think I was 12. That was my first performance. 

Rae Leigh: young. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Well, the great thing about, that is what. Around my community, we had a lot of fundraisers and, you know, chorus being in and out of hospital. I get to know a lot of them and yeah, when I was 12, that was my first. First performance and it was a fundraiser and it was awesome. So when I was around that age, you know, I just started doing fundraisers, just singing and stuff. And then, you know, as I got older, I just, I loved it I love performing. It's probably one of my favorite things about music. I think performance and songwriting are definitely my top two.

 Yeah, so I really, I just ever since then, I just kinda kept booking gigs. Do you mean that? And of course, yeah. 

and when I was, yeah, totally. So that kind of came later, of course. But when I was 17, I actually got the, I work with children's wish VC, and one of my wishes was to record a song in a professional studio.

So, yeah, so that was kind of the start of recording for me. I, I was introduced to, yeah, so through children's wish I work with a producer and we recorded it. A song called survive. That's on my parachute EAP. Yeah.

And that was a wonderful song. So that was written by two artists named Giulia and, Liz Rodriguez and the producer, he showed me the song and of course listening to it, I was like, oh,

my God, like, that's. That's totally explains my life like this. I just need to record this. Recorded that in 2017. And then I actually just asked the producer if you wanted to still work together. And then we, came out with parachute the EPS. So, and then from then on just kind of in writing and recording 

and all of that.

Rae Leigh: Wow. I think that's beautiful. And that, you know, through these circumstances, you've been able to truly make lemonade, I guess, 

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh, my God. I love that. 

Rae Leigh: but it's beautiful. And what about like, co-writing and stuff? Have you had much experience with collaborating with other people and writing songs together?

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah.

So actually 2020 was when I really started co-writing you know? Um, Yeah.

So in the past I always just kind of wrote songs by myself. I just, you know, that was my outlet. So that's what I, I just liked doing it by myself and I, I dabbled a little bit. Once I got into my music program. Posts post-secondary and, but 2020, right when, uh, kind of the world shut down and.

You know, we can see people. I met a lot of people just through Instagram. There is quite the country music scene out in, Toronto, Ontario area and Canada there. And I'm at a lot of artists just through Instagram, through zoom. We were doing a lot of zoom rights and yeah, it was awesome. 

Rae Leigh: So you got some new songs coming 

out 

Jaimey Hamilton: I I 

Rae Leigh: like, 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, I do. So my recent release, for bar stool at two of my co-writers, rich cloak and Josh David, I met them. That was through the kind of Ontario community. I met them a resume and we wrote that song over zoom. And then I have two more songs that. I have come out of that so that I will be releasing soon. 

Rae Leigh: Amazing.

Jaimey Hamilton: for that. Yeah. Thank you.

Rae Leigh: There's another song that I just listened to. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. Save a bar still for me. Yeah. Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: Yeah. It's a beautiful song. I already saved it and I follow it on Spotify. I'm sure everyone else is going to go listen to it now.

Jaimey Hamilton: Yes. Love that. 

Rae Leigh: So tell me, I know that it's probably, you know, it's only been a little. Joanie, I guess in comparison to some people they're releasing tons of albums because I can relate. I only started releasing music in 2020 as well. So like, I am a newbie as well. You've actually been performing a lot longer than me.

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh 

Rae Leigh: Because I was, I was always too shy to share my music. And so until recently, so tell me, eat. Yes, you have done on the experiences that you've had. Is there a piece of advice that has kind of become something that you've held on to that you've always stuck to, that you can share with us? 

Jaimey Hamilton: Absolutely. I, I have one saying where it's like, you need to believe in yourself because if you don't believe in yourself, who else. So I know that's very, that's kind of right to the point, but honestly, I struggle with that. I struggle with, believing in myself and I'm sure you do too. Like every other artist I talked to were all kind of in the same boat where it's like, well, God, like there's so many other amazing artists out there.

Like, am I even talented enough? You know, you just kind of get, that imposter syndrome and. I, Yeah. I've been really trying to train myself to just believe in myself because Yeah, if I don't, who's going to, you know,

Rae Leigh: Yeah. And comparison is the killer of creativity. Like we compare ourselves to everyone else and the reality is how can you compare apples to oranges? You know, like you 

Jaimey Hamilton: We're all unique and that's what sets us apart, you know? And I think, you know, obviously social media is hard cause 

Rae Leigh: yeah, 

Jaimey Hamilton: know, comparing, it's just, it's very toxic, but I 

Rae Leigh: You already see the skin. I don't mean.

Jaimey Hamilton: yeah. You know, it's just, I've still, I, still need to, I've been learning and, you know, believing in myself and it's taken time, but still, you know, I totally have those days where I'm just like, what am I doing?

Like. You know, I'm there. No motivation. I just, what I'm producing is just not good. I'm not good enough. And you can just go down a rabbit hole, as long as you believe in yourself and your worth, then no one can stop 

you.

Rae Leigh: I remember this one time my dad was a pasta. He is a pasta, sorry. And a Vietnam veteran, and always comes up with little words of wisdom. And we were walking by the beach one time and I was kind of just thinking about sharing my music. And I think I must've said something along those lines.

Like, I just don't know if I'm good enough or I don't know if I've got the right voice, you know, like, cause I don't sound like everyone else, 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, me 

Rae Leigh: which is like, I'm sure. Everyone's probably said that now that I said out loud, I'm like, yeah, everyone says that. But he, he turned to me and he goes, you have the exact voice that God wanted you to have.

And it's perfect. Just the way it is. And I was like, 

Jaimey Hamilton: oh, that's very beautiful. 

Rae Leigh: can't argue with that. 

Jaimey Hamilton: No. 

Rae Leigh: Like if we all have the voice that God gave us and we have the only voice that we have. And so that's all we're going to be able to use. We can't get a voice box transplant, you know, 

Jaimey Hamilton: No. 

Rae Leigh: work that 

way.

And so. We have to make the best of what we have. and that really helped me kind of get past that, like for me anyway, get past that whole comparison thing. It's like, I'm just me and 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah.

right. And I think that's so great. You know, being used sets you apart and it's so unique. Can I? Yeah, I've just, I've totally, I tried to follow that too. And, you know, cause I don't, you know, I don't have this big voice and, but you know, we each have our own style 

and I think that's, that's great. 

Rae Leigh: Yeah. And it will evolve as you get older, your voice changes and you just evolve with it. So if you could. Sometimes I like to kind of throw a little bit of an abstract question out there, but so you could time travel and you could go back in time and speak to yourself, maybe, you know, at a vulnerable space where you maybe needed some encouragement or some self-belief.

 Tell us what age would you go back to and what would you say to yourself?

Jaimey Hamilton: To when I was, I think 10, I think too, when I was 10, I think that was when I was during the thick of my treatments and that. And. I think I was just to go back and just be like, you know, like, just keep going. Like there's, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, you're going to survive this it's it's going to be worth it.

It's going to be worth it. So I think, yeah, I'd go around to that age. I'd even say 12 too. Cause that was. That was kind of my third relapse. So that was when I 

was like, oh my God, are you kidding me? 

Rae Leigh: Yeah. 

Jaimey Hamilton: uh, Yeah.

I think I would just go back and just be like, you know what, this is just what you have to do, 

Rae Leigh: Yeah. 

Jaimey Hamilton: you know, it's going to be worth it.

It really is. And you're going to have so many exciting things happening. So you just have to, you know, just put your head down and keep Brennan basically. 

Rae Leigh: That's beautiful. I love that it's going to be worth it. And that can be hard to see in the moment, but I think for your future as well, it is always going to be worth it because your life is worth it. Oh, you're such a beautiful person. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh my God. That's so cute. Well, Thank you.

Well, is there a 

age that you would go back and tell yourself? 

Rae Leigh: you asking me the 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, I want to hear, I want to hear what you have 

to say.

Rae Leigh: oh gosh. Not many people turn the questions around on me. 

Jaimey Hamilton: I'm just curious. I 

Rae Leigh: you put me on this. 

Jaimey Hamilton: oh, no, 

Rae Leigh: You know what I've, I've thought about this recently. And I've been doing my own sort of therapy. So like I didn't go through cancer, but I was neglected as a kid. And I, I had like eight to 12 years of child sexual abuse within the family space.

Like it wasn't a safe childhood, and I was very alone. So I think I would definitely go back and talk to myself as a little girl. And I would kind of, I would just tell myself that you are loved and you are important and worthy, I think I just, when you go through trauma as a kid and you've been through.

That experience, I've realized that I've learned now that it's a very normal feeling to feel isolated, but also feel like you're different and you're not as valuable or as important or loved as other people, when you're a child, as children deserve to be loved and 

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh, gosh. 

Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: but not every child is loved or protected as a child. Unfortunately. Level that I believe they should be. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: it can be like really hard when you're that age and no, one's really there to see you. And so I think that's what I would do. I'd go back and get myself a big hug and say you're loved and everything's going to be okay. 

Jaimey Hamilton: I like that. I liked the, your loved part. I liked that. I think that's sometimes what a lot of people need to hear and not, not even just kids, too, like people. I need to hear that sometimes. So I think that's a, that's a good answer. 

Rae Leigh: Maybe we should have your love today, where everyone has to tell people that they love them.

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, no, uh, no, we totally don't. So I liked that.

Rae Leigh: Yeah, that's trademark that one. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, totally. That's

Rae Leigh: can be a little, our baby. 

Jaimey Hamilton: totally. 

Rae Leigh: I have this other sort of inspirational question. So I want to know who your inspirations are. If you could co-write and collaborate with anyone in the world, who would it be and why?

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh my gosh. It's actually a lot. But I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna stick with my, so of course my influences when I was younger, of course, it's Taylor swift. Hands down she's yeah, right. Like I have to say her because yeah, no, She's.

big reason why. Yeah,

Right. But more recently I always say artists, like Carly Pearce she's, she's very raw and Vaughn vulnerable with her lyrics and she just is a very good story. And I really gravitate towards that and her music. I love that. And so I, I would probably say who I'd want to co-write though would probably be Hailey Whitters 

mot sure. Fear. Yeah, so 

Rae Leigh: familiar with. 

Jaimey Hamilton: she, she actually wrote, you might know, so, you know, the song, happy people buy a little big town. So she wrote that. And it, so that was kind of her. And she just came out in 2020, actually. She came out with, uh, I think it's like her first album and, oh my God, I just, that's an album. Like I can listen to front and back. Like it's, it's very, yeah. I just love her style. She's very, I think. I think it really connect with her because yeah, she doesn't have this big flashy voice, but it's her storytelling and I just really love her music and what she produced like it, yeah.

You'll have to check it out, but I think songwriting with her, her, or, and she actually does remind me of Kacey Musgraves. So, um, so I have a number, I have a number, but Yeah.

I think those would be 

my maybe top. 

Rae Leigh: Awesome. I'm going to definitely go check out, check out that music and, through some research, it sounds like I am behind the eight ball on that one. 

Jaimey Hamilton: She's just so good. I love her. 

Rae Leigh: You've got, you've got new music and stuff coming out. Tell me, is there anything else that you would like to share with the audience? I'm going to put all your social links and your music, links and website and everything in the description of the podcast.

And then you will also be a featured blog on the website somewhere that you stop com. But is there anything else you would like to hear while you've got the floor?

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, well, I just want to, So, talk about my latest single save a Barstool for me. So I always like to explain kind of where I come up with my songs and all that. And this, yeah,

so this one was, I started writing this, two years ago and this is one about my grandpa who's passed and I started writing this song. And so he was, he had cancer and he actually had colon cancer. 

Rae Leigh: cool. 

Jaimey Hamilton: And he passed away. It was two years on October 29th And the last.

three months before his, before he passed, you know, we, of course we spent a lot of time together and with our family and stuff, And, there was just always a saying in, you know, people.

Rae Leigh: you know, 

Jaimey Hamilton: And people would come up to him and they would be like, save a Barstool for me. His name was Leo. So, you know, they'd say save a Barstool for me, Leo. And that was just kind of always saying, cause and his situation, people knew the outcome. They knew he didn't have much time. So that was just kind of a saying that I had heard within the past couple months. 

Rae Leigh: like in 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, That's kinda, Yeah. So. you know, yeah. so. I just, Yeah,

when he was sick, I kind of started writing a song and of course I'm a perfectionist and I need things to be perfect. So I brought it to my friends, rich cloak and Josh David, and then. Totally helped me finish a song and they totally helped me write it and just, you know, bring out his character in the songs and talk about little things.

And, you know, it's a sad thing that we wrote about, but it it's inspiring, you know, and that's what I wanted. You know, it wasn't, it wasn't a total sad memory. When I think of him, it's not a sad memory, so I really wanted the song to be inspiring. And 

Rae Leigh: Yeah, 

Jaimey Hamilton: you know, it's not a goodbye. It's a see you later. So 

Rae Leigh: that's beautiful. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Thank you. I just, yeah, so I hope when people listen to it, it resonates with them. And cause I know we've all been touched with either cancer, death and both at that. 

Rae Leigh: of Kansas, not supposed to be, but I mean, 

Jaimey Hamilton: I know, yeah, 

Rae Leigh: and birth is, is just another part of a thing. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. 

And it's yeah, I always just think, you know, it's a sad thing death is, but it's, I just it's like the way that we cope with death, it's just so sad sometimes.

Yes. It's, it is a sad thing, But.

I just, you know, he had a wonderful life and he, you know, and like you say, yeah, it's a part of life and I just, I just wanted it to be a celebration of him. I didn't want it to be. 

Rae Leigh: yeah, right. That is what I, if, you know, if I have lived a long life and I have grandchildren and you know, and everything I kind of want to do, I want people to see that. My death because it's celebrate my life at my funeral, you know, like that, that I lived and I imparted as much love as I could in the time that I have.

And I think that's a beautiful thing to be able to do. I've been to quite a few funeral. Unfortunately lately where people either took their own lives or, you know, they were too young and that it's a whole nother level. It's a whole nother level because it brings up the battle of the mental health battle that the, the life battle that we, that we all battle with, it's like, we all have those moments.

Jaimey Hamilton: And it's so tough. 

Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: we 

just. Well, we, we need people. We need, we need each other to like pull us up in those moments. You know, when, when I've been really low, cause you know, you get really low. Sometimes that's life. I have people around me to lift me back up, you know, and sometimes when I've been at these funerals, I was like, this could be me. If I didn't have these people in my life around me to bring you back, you know?

Jaimey Hamilton: And that's yeah, that's another thing. Just having family around it it's really does make a difference and yeah. 

Rae Leigh: So grateful for the people that we love. We've got to treat each other well because we need each other. No one can live life on your own. And why would you want to, it's boring if you

stick up for each other and have each other's backs because the Wells, the Wells giving us enough crap as it is, we don't need any more.

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh God. Totally. Yeah. You're right. I like

Rae Leigh: Pandemic and, you know, all sorts of weather issues and you know that the world will give us enough pain and trauma and trouble. Let's try and, 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: the love back into it. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, I'll lift each other up. Yes.

Rae Leigh: Yeah, absolutely. That's what I'm all about anyway. That's awesome. Thank you so much for sharing that story and, and sharing your journey and songwriting. Is there, is there anything else you would like to share just before we finish up? Cause I feel like we've had a really good 

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh Yeah.

Well, one thing I do want to say is that I actually, so when I was. 14. I think it was my family? and I, we actually did a month down and the gold coast, we actually traveled the gold coast. Yes. So I was so excited when, yeah, I heard you guys are gonna have me. And I was like, oh my God. Yes. And I love Australia. Pardon? 

Rae Leigh: What were you doing here with the family? What was 

Jaimey Hamilton: We were just, Yeah.

we were just traveling. My mom has always wanted to go to Australia. So she was like, cause I was, I would have been in grade nine. My sister was in grade 12. Yeah.

my brother was younger and so she's like, you know what? I just want to put this trip. I'm going to plan it out. You know, assume my kids will be out of the house and it was perfect.

We just spent a month down there. And we just went up the gold coast and it was honestly one of the best trips I've ever been on. It was over Christmas and yeah, it was awesome. And I want to go back to Australia so bad and check out New Zealand. Like, so I just had to say that. Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: Well, I want to come. I want to come to Canada. I haven't been yet, but I 

Jaimey Hamilton: Uh, 

Rae Leigh: but, I'll host you for sure. If you come over and, I'm going to come visit and we'll have coffee. When it, 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: tell me, all the cool places to go and sing music and play and perform. Tell me, what do you have like one highlight from when you visited the gold coast?

Something that you just.

Jaimey Hamilton: There was so much, I'm trying to think of the place. Cause obviously it's been a while, so I don't remember a ton of the places, but you guys have awesome beaches, like awesome. And I'm trying to think of the one. I'll have to ask my mom she's better at remembering, but I'm trying to think. I remember. I remember, I think 

it was, is it surfers paradise set? 

Rae Leigh: paradise where the city's on the 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, that was really cool. 

Rae Leigh: walk across this McDonald's and like, then you walk 

Jaimey Hamilton: And that was so cool. and like, that was, yeah, I usually am more of like a secluded, like, don't like busy, but that was just cool to check it out. Yeah, I just want to go back so bad, like you guys have. Awesome. I dunno. Even just your parks, like it was just 

so fun, so 

Rae Leigh: Well, we're definitely growing a lot at the moment because we haven't had, we really haven't had COVID in our city at 

Jaimey Hamilton: Um, 

Rae Leigh: been kind of like, we locked the borders and we're like, that's it, everyone else in the world stay away. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yeah, right? 

Rae Leigh: we're just gonna do our thing without beautiful beaches. 

Jaimey Hamilton: yeah, That's kind of like where I am. It's in Victoria here. Before ABC it sits, it's like, there's no room. Well, why, how is there still people coming here? 

So funny.

Rae Leigh: Yeah. So, Yeah. I mean, because of that though, like a lot of other cities have had COVID in a, the lockdowns and stuff they've wanted to move. So we've, we've had a massive population. Boom. Which is great, but our infrastructure is under a lot of pressure, like hospitals and lots of stuff is like, it's really challenging.

 And we just got to catch up, but it's such a beautiful place to live. So I'm, I'm excited to see it evolve. And, yeah, I'm looking forward to you coming over. I'm going to hold you to that.

Jaimey Hamilton: What I know. I need to just book something and just, yeah, it'd be awesome.

Rae Leigh: Well, I go to the beach and we'll take our guitars down and we can like to occur right on the stairs. That's as paradise on the beach. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Oh my God. How awesome would that

Rae Leigh: right. Promise.

Jaimey Hamilton: Yes. 

Rae Leigh: do it. 

Jaimey Hamilton: Yes. 

Rae Leigh: All right. Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate you coming on the end. You have such a beautiful. Golden soul person. And I'm just so blessed to be able to share your music and support you and support your journey because I believe in what you're doing and, yeah, you're amazing.

Jaimey Hamilton: Well, thank you so much. Well, you as well, it was so lovely to chat with you and just thank you so much for having me. 

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