#118 Tia Gostelow
Tia has only just turned 21 and has released two albums with the song “Strangers” just shy of 12 million streams and certified GOLD, 2 Triple J feature albums and the Queensland Music Award for album of the year for “Thick Skin”.
The most exciting thing for Tia is that she has really settled in with her family of bandmates Jordan Bain, Sebastian Jennings-Hingston & Izzy De Leon. Her live achievements already include a UK tour, SOLD OUT Australian headline shows, performances at Falls and Groovin In The Moo festivals and sharing the stage with the likes of Bernard Fanning, Boy & Bear, Ball Park Music, Frightened Rabbit, Lewis Capaldi and Gomez. As the world opens up in 2021 Tia and her band will be sharing their celebratory new live show as far and wide as possible.
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Rae Leigh: Welcome to a songwriter Tryst with Tia Gostelow woo. Local love. I love it. When I have someone who's local come into my studio. Cause it's just, I don't know. It's more personal, more intimate. So let's start with you telling us in your own words.
Tia Gostelow: My name is Tia Gostelow I am a singer songwriter, musician artist, and I grew up in, MCI in north Queensland and I moved to Brisbane in 2018 to, make my music career happen.
I've been playing since I was maybe about seven years old. That's when I got my first guitar. I was obsessed with Taylor. swift. My parents took me to my first concert and it was Taylor. And I just remember falling so in love with her it's when, like she first, released like love story.
And everything. so she still had this Barkley silver guitar, the sparkly blue dress.
Yeah. and I just remember falling in love with her and then asking mom and dad to buy me a guitar and taught myself how to play. because at the time we lived on an island in the Northern territory. So it was very there wasn't very many. opportunities up there. So I had to teach myself from YouTube and make my parents sit there and listen to me, every single night.
Singing love story.
Rae Leigh: Got very supportive parents,
Tia Gostelow: yeah.
I do. I'm very lucky in that aspect. I've always been super, super supportive of my passion for music. And then I moved to MCI when I was 10 and I guess we really didn't know where to start. I guess for me trying to get into the meat into music, so we didn't really know what to do, where to go.
Somehow we like found out about these country music festivals that happened like every month, and they're like
Rae Leigh: monthly festivals Yeah.
Tia Gostelow: So like my parents would literally drive me all over Queensland, almost I think it, at some points, it was like every weekend for a couple of months.
So I'd go and compete in those festivals. Which was great. Like, I think it definitely taught me how to be very persistent and it taught me a lot of resilience and just not to really care.
Rae Leigh: What do you mean? Like, how did that teach you
Tia Gostelow: I was doing them from 10 till, maybe 16.
15 or 16. and Yeah. So you have all these categories. You had like rock section. You had The vocal sections, anything but country kind of section. So you're competing maybe like four times a day over the weekend. And you have three judges sitting in front of you and you have to get up and give this band that you've never played with before.
Just chord charts. So you get up and you're Like relying on these chord charts to be right. So it's definitely like a lot of like trust you're putting in the people around you and. It's just, it can be a very stressful environment. So I think being put in that from a young age has taught me how to be on stage And
Rae Leigh: percentage wise.
How often did that actually work? I'm just curious, to give a
Tia Gostelow: with the band.
Rae Leigh: charts. Yeah. And just be like, Hey, go play this. And then
Tia Gostelow: It, I guess I couldn't write them myself So I had to get like my music teacher at the time to write them for me. So like sometimes it could go really. wrong. I think it happened to me a couple of times, but
Rae Leigh: it was always your fault because the cold shuts the,
Tia Gostelow: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It probably would have been because of music to be like so good. But yeah, so I did that for a little while. and I was also like, my job throughout school was playing in pubs from like about 12 till 17. So That's all I did. like every Friday, Saturday, Sunday, all through school. And I remember going to my parents being like, can I please just get a job at Maxwell something so I can feel normal.
And they're like, Nope, you got to stick it out. If it's something you love, you got to do it. And I'm so glad that they told me that. Yeah. Yeah. So I feel like I had all of this kind of experience like playing live, especially before I even released any songs. And then when I was 16,
My music on triple J on earth. And I ended up getting into on a tie, which was awesome when I was in grade 12 and that's where my music career kicked off. So I won like the indigenous initiative part of that. And then. Ended up playing at big sound and everything just rippled out from that, which is really awesome.
Wow. Yeah.
Rae Leigh: Thank you. Triple
Tia Gostelow: Yeah. Thank you.
Rae Leigh: Yeah, I think that they are a lot of artists are grateful for what they've done.
Tia Gostelow: Oh, Totally. I'm am. I'm so grateful for triple J and, I'm especially coming from somewhere like MCI where it's super regional and just it's super hard to get any of those kinds of opportunities. So I was. even Just like super stoked to be even getting like plays on earth, let alone being on like on a tie and then triple J like it's pretty surreal thing to be happening especially when you're in grade 12.
And you're like, what is my life going to be like you having all these kinds of feelings about wanting to go to uni, and not knowing what to do with your life. So that definitely confused me a little bit, but it also made me made it a lot more clear at the same time.
Rae Leigh: questions around whether you were actually going to do music as a full-time career,
Tia Gostelow: Yeah. I remember being like end of grade 12 and like everyone around me in school, they were all applying for uni.
They were all applying for like apprenticeships and traineeships and like mining. And there was nobody else doing what I wanted to do. And I remember being like, pulled into like the careers counselors. office Being like, oh I don't think this career sustainable for you. Have you thinking of are you thinking of other
Rae Leigh: I think they all say
Tia Gostelow: yeah, I think so too. Yeah.
Rae Leigh: counselors. I think, I don't know. I think I've met one. That's yes. Music is
Tia Gostelow: Yeah. Yeah. Literally. But yeah, like they, they did that whole spiel to me.
Rae Leigh: It should rename cruise counselor's
Tia Gostelow: Literally. But yeah, Like I actually did like start applying for like traineeships and I was freaking out about maybe I should go to uni. Maybe I should study music at uni. And then my parents were like, just have a year off. You don't need to choose right now what you want to do. You've got your whole life.
And so I had that year off, I was working and then I decided to move to Brisbane and just.
try and make music work. And I'm glad I did.
Rae Leigh: Yeah, amazing. I want to get back to cause Taylor swift has inspired a lot of people, especially women. And it's only really recently becoming a thing where women are actually getting a fair hearing in the music industry. It's I was shocked. The more I found out about the inequality within the music industry for females versus males, which is just silly, it should just be, quality-based not gender based, but anyway, here we are.
What was it about music when you saw her? And like when you're a kid and you want to do a guitar, like what happened for you?
Tia Gostelow: I think being the, and I think it was also like, my parents always had the country music channel on at home.
Like it it was just constantly on, neither of my parents are musically inclined, at all. I don't know where it comes from in my family. But I think having that on all the time and seeing her like on TV, and Her music just resonated with me. I just loved her from the moment I saw her on TV and then going and being able to see her in person.
And just I dunno, I think it's just like that pretty much like all girls around my age. I think we all had that same thing with her she was like this country princess, and like everyone wanted to be like her. And I dunno, I just so high play and I'm like, I want to do that.
That's what I want. to do. I want to be like that. I want to play her songs and I swear to God.
like the only songs I learned when I first got my guitar, but Taylor swift songs like love story Al song That's still like a video of me at my, like when I was maybe like eight singing in front of people for the first time. And I'm singing a Taylor swift song. Like I just loved her so much.
Rae Leigh: Show people what's possible
Tia Gostelow: Totally a hundred
Rae Leigh: there are, there's the dream killers out. Yeah.
That'll this isn't a viable option. It's we'll have Taylor swift can do it. She's incredibly talented, she did present as she's just a girl who loves to sing and play guitar. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I think it's beautiful. And and now you're doing that for other people, everyone's oh my gosh, do you go cellar? If she can do it, I can do it. And it's it's a cycle. But we need people in the world who are willing to follow their dreams, no matter how unrealistic people tell us it is you got to do it for sanity.
Tia Gostelow: Oh, you do. You do. And if you love it enough, then you'll make it work somehow.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. And that's probably a good point. Yeah. You fell in love with it. Tell me about the first song that you wrote
Tia Gostelow: The first one,
Rae Leigh: Taylor swift.
Tia Gostelow: the first song I wrote. I think it was a song called Lourdes hill. And I wrote it about the property that my mum grew up on down in new south Wales, in a town called, BombBomb. And I just remember it being like, it was like so much land and then you'd drive into the driveway and it's this big kind of shape, just and there's just trees outlining.
The whole driveway, And then once you get to the end, there's like this beautiful brick house, and then there's like a pool and then attendance. Cool. And then like, a playground, like it was just like these kind of yeah, It was absolutely beautiful. And at the time I think my Nan was like, considering whether she wanted to sell it or not, because it was just her up there.
So she was pretty, yeah. It just like a lot for her to deal with by herself. Yeah, I, see. I was just writing about. Obviously my non Hathaway, she's probably going to feel when they had to sell it. Like the way my mom was feeling, because it was my mom's it's where She grew up Had granddad built it Like it's been in their family for so long and it's got so much meaning to them.
So I wrote a song called Lord's hill about the property. But I haven't thought about that song. so long. So thank you for rejigging, that memory,
Rae Leigh: that sounds beautiful. My parents literally just sold our family home. Yeah.
Tia Gostelow: It's heartbreaking.
Rae Leigh: Mine was bittersweet because I didn't have great experiences as a child, but I saw that experience like in my parents and my siblings, a lot of them have that.
Attachment and then detachment, I guess in yeah. Where you grow up is
Tia Gostelow: Yeah Yeah. It was just like such a beautiful property.
Rae Leigh: Did she end up selling it?
Tia Gostelow: Yeah. Yeah. yeah. And I just remember it was just like super emotional because it has been in the family for so long and it's so beautiful. I'm pretty sure my Nan's parents had buried there up on a hill as well.
So it's like all this like very personal attachment to it. And I guess I was just, I wrote it from the point of view of me looking at like my Nana, my mom, like having to say goodbye to this place that they've grown up in. absolutely loved.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. And I think we do have a special connection to land, especially land that we've spent so much time on.
Yeah, absolutely. That's really cool. Oh, that's a beautiful person. It's often it's like when I ask that song, it's oh, this guy broke my
Tia Gostelow: Yeah.
Rae Leigh: like the best first song story
Tia Gostelow: Oh, thanks. I think that was my first song. I'm like trying to retrace my steps, but that was definitely, yeah. Yeah. We'll stick with that
Rae Leigh: What about your music now? When you're writing music and you're performing because you do that a fair bit, what is it that you are like an underlying message or vision for your tribe, your audience, your fans, people that hear your music, what do you want them to feel?
What do you want to create?
Tia Gostelow: I think anytime I create music in the past, it's always pretty much been about like my, my experiences and my stories and things that I've been through. And I of course always want people to listen to my music and be able to, resonate things that have going on in their lives the song, I guess and people like put their own experiences onto songs.
Like I might be writing a song about a certain thing, but when somebody else hears it, they could be relating it to something completely different that's going on in their life, which is amazing. But at the moment I've been writing quite a lot, but my life, this is like a bad thing to say, but I find it so hard to write music when my life hasn't got anything bad going on. in it, like it's.
Rae Leigh: do you find it like you're a tragedy
Tia Gostelow: Yeah. Yeah. I find it so much easier to write when I'm feeling really sad about something but lately? My life has been. Pretty good. Nothing exciting has really been happening. So I've been trying to write about things that I'm seeing and not just my own personal experiences, just like things that are going on and like my friends' lives, or like from an outsider perspective on other things going on in the world rather than myself.
So that's something that I've really been trying to do. And I think it's like a really cool way to look at life instead of just focusing solely on my feelings. and what's going on in my life. And,
Rae Leigh: There is COVID. There are plenty of stories
Tia Gostelow: Yeah, exactly.
Rae Leigh: Hard, if that's the, you want to stick to the, you could just come out with a Tia Costello I'm happy
Tia Gostelow: Yeah,
Rae Leigh: Cause I'm
Tia Gostelow: will see the day, one day.
Rae Leigh: I think that is life. Like I used to do that. Like music was always my therapy and so they were always pretty miserable and shockingly horrible, but it was the way that I live.
Those horrible motions out like a healthy way to get it out like that we'll go and play basketball or something and just let that energy out.
But now that I'm doing it full time, I'm writing when I'm happy as well. And I'm loving the songs that come out in that but I think it was the same. I was like, oh, what do I do when I'm happy?
Tia Gostelow: Yeah.
Rae Leigh: to it.
Tia Gostelow: about, what do I write about, but yet, Yeah. It's like definitely great to, I think me being in like the good place I am at the moment is, has been good for me.
To look at the world in different ways. And like I've even been reading a lot more and I'm like, my mom gave me this idea to like highlight like phrases and words and stuff in books that I really like or resonate with. So I can go back to it, if I ever need help with lyrics or inspiration. So that's been really great.
But yeah, like I've really been enjoying writing lately and yeah, like my last album that was like, oh, like Britain when I was going through a pretty, like bad time in my life where my anxiety was really bad And for me as well, that was like a great way to express all the things that I was feeling. And I really loved like listening back to those songs and like being able to understand exactly how I was feeling and where I was in my life, but also not being.
like. Triggered by that as well. Like for me, it's like looking back in a diary and like being able to say I went through that, but this is the person that I am now because of it.
Rae Leigh: Yeah, absolutely. And I think like what you said before with resilience, like I think everything is teaching us resilience, whether it's good or bad, because we don't know what we can handle until we have to handle it.
And we are stronger than we think we are
Tia Gostelow: Yes for sure.
Rae Leigh: still scary. Then life is freaking
Tia Gostelow: It is
Rae Leigh: Okay. You're writing a lot of music and he, you want people to connect to essentially your story. And that's awesome because I think as an artist, we grow with the artist and we all change in our lives with the music industry and your relationship with that and her writing as well.
Like where do you see it moving? And do you do much, co-writing, what's been your experience because you've obviously learned heaps. You said you knew nothing when you were in Buckeye and now you're in Brisbane. What did you do to get to where you are now? What would you recommend other people do?
Tia Gostelow: I think relationships and connections that everything like with people going out. For me, it was a bit hard when I was in MCI. Purely because there isn't really much, of a music scene there and it can be hard to like, get to know people in like the Brizzy music industry, or like Sydney or Melbourne. But in Queensland, we are pretty lucky to have cue music and the programs that they put on.
Like the workshops. sometimes I go up to MCI and cans and when they did come up to MCI, my mom would take me to them. And that's how we started getting to know people in the Brisbane music scene. And eventually when I moved down, I started doing a lot more car rights. Croats has been like my main thing the past couple of years.
And I really love doing them. I think it's great. I've thoroughly enjoy riding with other people. I think that's where I write the best. But yeah, I'm like in this weird position now where I'm like learning to ride by myself again, because I've been doing it so much with other people that I've forgotten how to do it all by myself.
Rae Leigh: Get comfortable. There's a familiar, I think there's a safety net in writing with someone else because there's like consistent validation in your ideas. But there is also the alternate wake where you start to doubt that you are good
Tia Gostelow: Yep. Yep. It's like this weird, like invisible line when you're like riding with other people.
Like it is good because if you all having like an off day, or aren't able to like produce as many ideas as you thought you would, there is somebody else there to like help with bringing those ideas in and hopefully re jogging your mind. But yeah. Did that answer your question? I don't know.
Rae Leigh: Tell me about, tell me what's your best advice with co-writing then since we're on that
Tia Gostelow: I think going in to a session with an open mind, don't shut down. Any ideas, like every idea, is a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. Don't be afraid To put your ideas forward. Because yeah. most of the time, I don't think I've really had an experience That has been bad, but like most of the time people aren't going to sit there and tell you that's horrible.
Like everyone is usually pretty like lovely and like kind and like songwriting sessions. The, I just go in and have fun and just speak your mind. don't hold ideas back
Rae Leigh: say it how
Tia Gostelow: Yeah. literally Cause an idea that you think is good. stupid could actually be a really great one that fits. right in the song perfectly.
Rae Leigh: I think it goes both ways.
Like I've been ones where people have said stuff and you can see that they really like it. And it's I can't put my name on
Tia Gostelow: yeah
Rae Leigh: With that in it I'm sure we can come up with something better. Let's keep going
Tia Gostelow: Yeah. It's just having a good attitude, and like being able to try somebody's idea.
And if that doesn't saying that in a way that it's not going to hurt anyone's feelings because everybody deserves to be respected in the room. Yeah.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. And it is hard because I think like for me being okay with other people saying, let's keep going. It was like, yeah, cool. As long as I feel free that, and I know that most of the stuff that comes out of my mouth, there's going to be random stuff, because I'll just say and sometimes it gets really funny because he brain comes out with stuff.
And I remember one time we were writing this song about, and we were like wanting to do a drinking zone. And I was like, oh, how do you make a wet pussy? And then we just went down this dark path and I'm like, no, I'm talking about the drink. And everyone was just like, ah, but and sometimes it just happens and I could've just Googled it, which is what they told me I should have done.
But it's, I think stuff like that, it's you just have to be okay with, sometimes you're going to sound like an idiot,
Tia Gostelow: Yeah, it's fine. Nobody's going to hold a grudge against you. You know what I mean? Like just put your ideas out there.
Rae Leigh: That's what makes the fun stories
Tia Gostelow: it's meant to be enjoyable riding with other people.
Rae Leigh: I was going to ask you as well. Cause you're talking about being really happy at the moment. Are you in a relationship? Are you
Tia Gostelow: Yes. Yeah. I've been with my boyfriend for almost five years. Yeah.
Rae Leigh: Sometimes you're like, can you just break out
Tia Gostelow: Yeah,
Rae Leigh: I can write a good song?
Tia Gostelow: I literally say, can you do something to annoy me so I can write about it and then we'll be fine.
Rae Leigh: Just made me
Tia Gostelow: Yeah.
Rae Leigh: three hours.
Tia Gostelow: And then it will be sweet. Yeah,
Rae Leigh: That's really good. Okay. What is the best advice you've ever been given?
Tia Gostelow: I think the best advice I've ever been given is to follow your gut instincts, especially in an industry like this, that's probably the best thing that you can do. And also it's okay to say no to things. I like, that's probably like the best thing that my mom has ever taught me.
Like I remember being like, soupy, like when you're young or like when you're first. Yeah. Yeah. and you're first Starting out in like the music industry.
I feel like there's this whole stigma around oh, you just need like one person from a label to walk past you and sign you. And I remember when I was younger, like I really wanted that.
I just want it to be signed to a label. And then I started doing music a little bit more than I'm like, you know what? I really don't think I want to be. And it's fine if I say no to like, people like asking me if they want to be wearing managers or like label like booking agent. I remember like having meetings at big sound right after unearth high with like multiple different people, because I wanted to make sure that the person that I was working with, along with him in person and I could sense their vibes and get.
my gut instincts About people, so I think that's a really great thing to do and not feeling like you're in a rush. There's always going to be things coming and going, in your life. Just knowing what to say. as a no, too,
Rae Leigh: it can be hard. I don't know about you, but that's been something I've had to retrain myself to do as an adult is that it's okay to feel something and not actually understand why, like sometimes, and I don't know if you've ever felt this.
It's not I hate on people, but sometimes I just get a sense about someone and I'm like, they're a lovely person. And there's nothing logical. I can't say I don't like them because blah, blah, blah. It's
Tia Gostelow: to get this.
Rae Leigh: it's just this. And it's like the creepy feeling. I don't know what it is, but it's just I get a sense that it's not all there. Maybe there's something that's hidden that I can't necessarily see, but I can
Tia Gostelow: feel it.
Rae Leigh: And that's for me, that's the hardest thing to be able to say, no, Logically knowing why,
Tia Gostelow: it's because I have this feeling and I don't know what it is. but I'm still going
Rae Leigh: It's insane fire at the same time, the more and more I do follow my gut. I think the more I'm learning that they was the right thing to but it's hard.
Tia Gostelow: It's hard when you like, feel confused and you're like, why am I feeling this way when I know there's nothing bad. There's no reason for me to feel this way, but sometimes your body just knows before
Rae Leigh: I think. Yeah. Especially as women we're really
Tia Gostelow: intuitive
Rae Leigh: and I think we're more intuitive than some guys think we are and they try to make us doubt our own intuition. And yet actually we need to like tune into that. And it's such a powerful it's like, Learning how to act on it is about, learning to trust yourself and love yourself enough to listen
Tia Gostelow: to listen to what it's telling you. Totally. But that is definitely like my best advice I could give, especially in an industry, like the music industry, like it's, everything's so uncertain, Like it's not just like a normal nine to five job, there's there'll be people coming and going within your career or throughout your career. There's always people that will be there and that won't be, but I think surrounding yourself with a great team that you completely trust, if you can do that then
Rae Leigh: it might take time,
Tia Gostelow: it does. It definitely does. I feel like I was very lucky with the team that I kind of, that I've been with since I was, young. But that's because like my mom was with me as well,
Rae Leigh: was helping
Tia Gostelow: and mom was helping me and my mom is like, crazy. She has got crazy instincts and it freaks me out sometimes. Like she just she's just such a good judge of character of people.
So I think I've been really lucky in that aspect to have a with me the whole time.
Rae Leigh: That's so good. You've and not everyone's had that. And I do see, I see a lot of young guys especially like the teenagers and the one thing they will have in common is supportive parents.
And I definitely didn't have supportive parents. That's why I was going to be a doctor because that was the career counselor. That's a logical choice. We always need more doctors. We don't always need more music. And I disagree with that now, but we, we all need someone to believe in us. Even though it's yes, believe in yourself.
Believe in yourself. That's like a big buzzword at the moment. Yes, you do need to believe in yourself, but you got to have someone else to
Tia Gostelow: Somewhat. Yeah. you need someone there helping you not even just helping you, but. like Knowing that someone is in your corner, no matter what
Rae Leigh: you need, and there's something wrong with that.
Doesn't make you weak. It makes you human. Everyone needs it. Everyone needs validation. Everyone needs to be seen and feel connected and supported. And I think that's one of those things that I learned when I went to Nashville. Everyone supports everyone over there. Like it's such a, it takes a village to create a great song and that's why they just pump it out.
There's no tomorrow over there. Whereas in Australia, it's like this tall poppy syndrome of you've got to do it all yourself and you get all the kudos and it's great. I don't want to be sitting in a penthouse with champagne on my own, like celebrating. Hey, I look at.
Tia Gostelow: by myself.
Rae Leigh: crickets scarring it.
Like it's I want to be there with people that are doing it with it. With everyone together and have fun, like really that's the most important thing. I still I'd still do that. I'd rather not win awards and be the best, but have a party with a whole bunch of friends that I have fun with.
That's what you do it for. It's not about all the other stuff, the connection and hanging around people who love what you love.
Tia Gostelow: Totally. Get that.
Rae Leigh: Yeah. Speaking of advice for people who are just starting out and maybe those kids, maybe they don't have a parent that is supporting them, what would you say to those guys?
Tia Gostelow: I would say, like I said before, like if you love music persevere at it, try and. hone in on your craft, as much as you can like practice as much as you can try and get as many gigs as you can, wherever you are, like covers gigs, whatever. But also don't sell yourself short as well, don't be doing it for free all the time.
Like you have to make a living from it. And just try and get to know people, like I said before as well. If there's any kind of like workshops going on around you. Try and go to them like music, industry workshops, songwriting workshops, anything like that, sometimes they're free, which is great.
But sometimes it will cost you a little bit of money. But I definitely think it's worth it, like going along to things like that and just introducing yourself to people and making sure that I guess people know your name even to start with. I think that's a great. way.
It does it it all takes so much time.
Like I forget that I even did the country music It feels so far away in my brain, but in reality it was like maybe eight years ago.
Rae Leigh: And it is, it's like a 10 year careers and a 12 year career. If you go to Nashville do you want to stay in Australia? And that's what are your goals for your music and where you want it to
Tia Gostelow: I was, I've always had this idea of like maybe moving to LA for a couple of months. I don't think I couldn't live over there. I am like way too attached to my family. I don't think I could lost over there by myself. But yeah mom and I were talking about going and living over there, for maybe.
three months together.
Rae Leigh: Let's go. I'll move my studio over there and just record Las people.
Tia Gostelow: yeah. But I would love to do that. Yeah, I just want to get riding and just making connections, touring if we can, like it's so hard to know anything these days, especially with touring. Yeah, I just feel like the whole world's been flipped on its side.
The music industry, like it's the only industry I know anything about, but I feel like we've had to like completely rework the rules about touring and album releases and single releases.
And it's just super crazy to see where the world is at now with releasing music and touring compared to what it was even like two years ago,
Rae Leigh: I think that your intuition is going to play a bigger role in, in navigating this new territory.
Absolutely. And
Tia Gostelow: A hundred
Rae Leigh: it is, it's no one knows what to do. There's no. Pre passed way of what to do and how to do it. But it's not just our industry. And that's the industry where in every industry is doing it and it's changing, it's affecting the land and property. Where we are in the gold coast is booming because people don't necessarily have to be in CBDs anymore.
And so the population of spreading out in a city process of dropping in rural country, places are lifting up and that's been coming with the internet, but it's just
Tia Gostelow: it's taken this pandemic to like really set it off
Rae Leigh: Really. Yeah. Push it and say, this is actually possible. And we've had, we've been forced to do it. And all of a sudden people who were like, no, that'll never happen. It's oh, okay.
Tia Gostelow: Yeah, we can work from home now.
Rae Leigh: we can do this. And oh, look at all the benefits. We don't have to pay for these office spaces anymore. And and people don't have to travel at traffic and be miserable.
They can have like good quality of life and do a really good job at the same time.
Like it's, it was an adjustment. Absolutely. But I think it's I really hope that people have taken that time to stop and realize what's
Tia Gostelow: Totally
Rae Leigh: I feel like everyone was,
Tia Gostelow: just go
Rae Leigh: yeah. No one was stopping to breathe.
I feel like the pandemic for Australians. I can't talk for the rest of the world because we really haven't. Even though we have stopped, we haven't had to deal with the medical crisis, like everywhere else.
Tia Gostelow: we're so Isolated. here. Like, it's, like it would be such a different story if we were over in like Europe or America, even,
Rae Leigh: it's so unique. I think in the sense that we are such a big space and really not that populated compared to anywhere else in the world. I can't think of anywhere else in the world that has such little population per capita, like per the, how big we are, even though we are, close like a coastal country But it's beautiful.
And I think it's been beautiful to see people start to question what's important in life. I'm getting off topic. So
Tia Gostelow: It happens.
Rae Leigh: yeah. This is why I do a
Tia Gostelow: Yeah.
Rae Leigh: to talk, I like to talk about this stuff and tell me your inspirations via this way. If you could co-write with anyone in the world living or dead, who would it be and why?
Tia Gostelow: Kacey, Musgraves? Because she's just. incredible. I'm just In awe of that woman. And I just feel like she's done the crossover of country and pop so well and has done something that nobody's ever done before. Sorry, Taylor. but not even Taylor, like Taylor did like the pop country
Rae Leigh: And ABM type. Like she wouldn't real. Yeah.
Tia Gostelow: in my brain, I've never been able to see the pop world and the country.
road Come together so effortlessly. And like, beautifully. I don't know. there's just something about Kacey Musgraves and her music that just just, I just love it so much. I can't even describe it. like it's definitely deserve that Grammy for that record. And I can't wait to hear a new one. That's coming out really soon. Yeah.
Rae Leigh: No, that's true. Like it is a. I think country is melding with a lot of different genres, not just pop, like even it was like Kane brown is bringing in the R and B country. And then like soon we're going to have dance country and EDM country. And then, it causes so much controversy, but at the same time, like it's just a story.
Tia Gostelow: I, there's not really any genres anymore. But even Casey's she's got her fingers in so many different pies, like she released a song with choice, Yvonne. which like, I never would've picked, but it's incredible. And even just from what she wears to like the posts that she does on Instagram and like complete styling, I feel it's just her she's being like, so authentically herself and really doesn't care what anybody thinks.
And I absolutely love that about her.
Rae Leigh: I love that about when anyone does that, it's it just, it's not like they're trying to copy anyone else. They're just being themselves and doing what intuitively feels natural and yeah. I just want to see everyone do that and find that diamond that is within and then let that shine.
Yeah. That's awesome. So what are you doing this year? What have you got coming out? You've released your album detouring. You've got a tour.
Tia Gostelow: Yeah. So I've just announced a tour that I'll be going on in July. So it'd be doing like breezy, GOCO, sunny, he Sydney, Melbourne, I think That's it Yeah. It's like a six day tour, which is great. I just been writing, just writing music, hopefully just getting a lot better at it. I really I would just put a base, so I really want to stop playing in like somebody else's band. Like I, Yeah. I had, like I played with
Rae Leigh: I'd love to have a female band
Tia Gostelow: Yeah,
Rae Leigh: any female band members.
Tia Gostelow: maybe it's my time.
Rae Leigh: I've never picked up a
Tia Gostelow: I Love it. so much. Like I'm terrible but I just love it. I think it goes up play basis. So hot,
Rae Leigh: so sexy. Isn't it? Yeah,
Tia Gostelow: So hot, so good. yeah
Rae Leigh: Just for bass
Tia Gostelow: Yeah. I played with Holly a couple of weeks ago, they did four shows at the Tivoli and they asked me to get up and just do babies for them.
I just kinda thought I was just like a guest kind of, but they're like, no, you're part of the band for these shows. and I'm like, that's sick. So like I just got up and just stood at the back was just singing babies on it. And I loved it so much. I loved not being the person at the front. like feeling the stress of that.
Rae Leigh: Okay. So that's a stressful thing for you being
Tia Gostelow: Now I know both sides, like I know what it's like to not be the front person now
Rae Leigh: just do the
Tia Gostelow: Yeah.
But I even just before, like we all went on stage, like I didn't have any of those, like sickening, pre show nerves that I usually do when it's my show, which I love as well
Rae Leigh: get a bit of
Tia Gostelow: not, if you're not nervous Before you go on stage and yeah, you're a sacrifice. But Yeah. Like I just feel like it would just be so fun to get up and play even if I created like another project where I wasn't the front person, I was just playing guitar or bass or something and like somebody else was up the front singing, I would absolutely love that. But it's also really great being able to be the front person as well.
and doing my own thing. But I think it's definitely something I'd love. to Dabble in, is just like playing bass for someone else. Yeah.
Rae Leigh: No, it's good to know. There is a lot of anxiety that comes with, everyone's and everyone has that.
Tia Gostelow: yeah.
Rae Leigh: there's just being human. I think if you don't have it there probably are some personality things that might impact it.
And there are also people out there that like just love being there, like being the center of attention. And there's nothing wrong with that either.
Yeah, I think I agree. There is that kind of nice sense of playing with someone else. I'm just not good enough. What else?
Tia Gostelow: neither. I've got a lot of practicing today before that happens.
Rae Leigh: Co-writing like, I reckon if I could just do touring or shows where it was like four or five artists and just doing like storytelling. I'm probably more of a talker and I've had to learn not to talk
Tia Gostelow: is much
Rae Leigh: a gig. Yeah.
Tia Gostelow: Yeah.
Rae Leigh: Like my first gig at a hotter last year it was like my first ever single release and my dad's a preacher.
So someone was like, teasing me about I dunno if I want to come for another sermon. Cause I just went into I have had to tell people now to tell me to just scream out, shut up, and sing. But that's something I think that comes with being a new artist as well.
Tia Gostelow: Like some people opposite.
Like I, Yeah. I Freak if I have to talk in front of people. But So I've had to like, like in my set lists now have had to implement certain places where I'll talk. Otherwise I would just say something stupid. on stage.
Rae Leigh: See I will still say something stupid, but that's just me. I'm dorky. Like I've never been cool. And I'm like, I've just had to get over it.
I'm like, I don't care if you don't like me, that's fine. I'm still going to go home and cook dinner for my three kids later. Like it's not gonna change my life. But I think that's. Definitely came with becoming a mom and getting older and it's yeah, I don't have to care anymore. But yeah, that's beautiful.
Thank you so much. I want to put all of your links and social, then your tour dates on the description of the podcast and on the website. So anyone who's listening and wants to follow you and come check out your music and your show. It'd be great. And I love to get down and see you live. Cause I but that'd be fun.
Tia Gostelow: Awesome. Thank you so much.
Rae Leigh: you.
